Date: 2011-04-11 08:17 am (UTC)
lascoden: Anarky (Default)
From: [personal profile] lascoden
I love how the clerk's problem is that "These kind of things don't usually work out," instead of the whole pedophilia thing.

Date: 2011-04-11 12:39 pm (UTC)
ext_412773: (pic#431326)
From: [identity profile] changeling81.livejournal.com
It wasn't that unusual for an adult man to marry a 14 year old girl in the U.S. back then (especially if the girl's parents endorsed it). It would be looked at as being more tacky or a bit scandalous than perverse or criminal. What many would call pedophilia is totally normally in tons of times and places. That being said... gross. But then again, this is a community where it's de rigeur to ogle pubescent boys dressed up in green manties and yellow capes, so your mileage may vary.

Date: 2011-04-11 01:07 pm (UTC)
terrykun: (don't listen)
From: [personal profile] terrykun
Even with this being scans daily... I expected to see that comment lead to Bieber instead of Robin.

That probably says something about our media today.

Date: 2011-04-11 04:57 pm (UTC)
ext_412773: (pic#431325)
From: [identity profile] changeling81.livejournal.com
Bieber Fever epidemics... the fact that "barely legal" porn is in the top 5 in popularity of genres... B. Spear's 90's debut in her naughty schoolgirl video...

The more things change the more they stay pedophilic?

Date: 2011-04-11 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Technically, pedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children, attraction to adolescents is called ephebophilia.

Date: 2011-04-11 07:34 pm (UTC)
venatosapiens: griffin vulture (Default)
From: [personal profile] venatosapiens
Yes, but Pedophilia is just so much easier to say.

What it honestly comes down to is the idea of forbidden or burgeoning sexuality--there are whole reams of power dynamics and taboo ideas locked up inside ephebophilia. I'd actually go so far as to argue (possibly incorrectly) that the two are very different in how thay are expressed in a pop cultural setting. Pedophilia is presented as the individual attracted to sexual beings that happen to be pre-pubescent children. Ephebophilia is presented as an awakening (or, arguably, a corrupting) of not yet expressed sexuality.

For the most part, we see ephebophilia in the media because a.) it is less instinctively creepy then pedophilia and b.) it plays more into the sexual narrative that we in America seem to mired in.

These are just my thoughts though.

Date: 2011-04-11 11:11 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Whilst I have no interest in Bieber beyond his existence as a remarkable marketing phenomenon, it might be worth mentioning he's 17, which is a year older than the age of consent in many countries (and parts of the US), so I don't think paedophilic is relevant to him, though his age is hard to tell from looks alone.

If anything he might be a case of cunningly marketed ephebophilia, though since his marketing targets a demographic even younger than he is and pre-adolescent, I'm not even sure that counts in that sense.

Date: 2011-04-11 01:14 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I, for one, like my Robin's a little older than that.

He's a cute little dickens when younger all right, but strictly off limits to any other than a hair-ruffling (And I should stress I mean the hair on top of his head, nowhere else)

Date: 2011-04-11 01:21 pm (UTC)
baxter2814: Spidey noms a chicken leg (Default)
From: [personal profile] baxter2814
Oh, I used to try to tell myself that too. But the frequent vagueness of his exact age, given my non-expertise in pre-Crisis continuity, helps to ease my mind. ;)

Date: 2011-04-11 01:31 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
He was definitely 18 by 1969 when he left to go to college, if that helps.

His age before that is a bit vague true, but from the 1964 "New Look Batman" which Carmine Infantino introduced Dick appeared to be at the 15/16 age range.

Date: 2011-04-11 03:49 pm (UTC)
baxter2814: Jimmy Olsen in his Natural Habitat of the Silver Age (jimmy doubles)
From: [personal profile] baxter2814
Well, unfortunately the underage-wrongness is part of what makes the crack fun. Y'know, like how pretending Superman actually is a dick and Wondy actually is a BDSM freak makes Superdickery fun. Ah well, no one ever said scans_daily was a haven for healthy individuals ;)

Date: 2011-04-11 04:22 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Healthy-ish at least; we're not internalising, and are united in our keeping things strictly in the realms of fantasy, thank heavens.

(Edited as I've never actually seen anything on s_d to suggest otherwise and didn't want to give the wrong idea)

Date: 2011-04-11 09:18 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
...no one ever said scans_daily was a haven for healthy individuals ;)

WHAT?! You mean... WFA lied to me??11!!

[is distraught for the rest of '11]

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