Invincible #79

[superfangirl1]

This entire issue is about Mark getting back to his life after the Viltrumite War, and things seem to be getting back to normal. As he find out that his mom and eve be hanging out while he been gone. Also mark costume gets slightly change. Eve been acting weird to which mark finds out why here while having dinner at immortal man house.

Comments

[sinisterlink]

Well, that's depressing.

[rainspirit]

Daaamn. That's one thing I don't expect comics to tackle often.

[sinisterlink]

I actually wish things like comics/movies/tv would tackle it differently and bring up adoption sometimes. Almost every time a character gets pregnant, it always turns into either "keep the baby" or "get an abortion". I'd like to see a storyline kind of like the movie Juno where the girl is like, "Well, I don't want/wouldn't be able to take care of this baby, but someone else will" and decides to have it for that reason. And it's not like something like that never happens because heck, it's how I'm here today.

[beoweasel]

Am I the only one going, "WTF?" at that last panel?

Is it suppose to be humorous? Snide? What? All I can think is, "Wow, you're a really shitty person for saying that."

Though, given I haven't really read the comic beyond the first couple of trades, that may be the point of her character?

[damianwayne]

I think that's the intention. Kate's always been a massive bitch to Eve; I keep waiting for her to go villain proper.

[thatnickguy]

The whole humourous comment I think is meant to bring a LITTLE bit of levity to a serious situation. It's the second last page, though. The final page is totally silent with the two of them hugging and crying. Really moving stuff.

[icon_uk]

Since it seems likely Kate doesn't know about the abortion, I'd call it snide and her being unaware of how inappropriate it would sound to someone, like the reader, who DID know about the abortion.

[big_daddy_d]

I gotta be real..I don't like this. I really don't. All this time, she never bothered to tell him to begin with and..i just don't agree with it. That's all I got to say on this. Also last panel..feels like it was an attempt at a joke and if that's the case, not appropriate nor did it succeed in lightening the mood.

[terrykun]

In reply to your and beoweasel's comment:

There's actually one more page after this that's silent and sets up a really intense emotional moment. Kate's "gag" panel disrupting the flow temporarily actually makes it all the more impactful (impactive?).

[stillanerd]

Same here. Granted, this is a logical development and one can completely sympathize with both Eve and Mark in this situation, but it's certainly uncomfortable scene (although I admit, this is in large part influenced by my own views on the subject of abortion) and appropriately so. And yeah, really classy there, Kate.

[stolisomancer]

She didn't have the chance to tell him. Eve found out, and very soon afterward, Mark ran off into space for ten months with almost no warning.

[thatnickguy]

Dear Tim Buckley: this is how it's done.

[jcbaggee]

Soooooo.

No chance that the baby was actually created by Eve's powers? :\

[heckfire]

It's NEVER an easy decision to make, and God, I hope this book handles it well.

[whitesycamore]

Um, yes it is sometimes?

[pyrotwilight]

Hmmm, interesting twist and while seriously handled I can't help but feel we'll suddenly find out something like the abortion didn't work because the baby inherited Eve's powers and saved itself.

[proteus_lives]

That would be interesting.

[keeva]

Dwayne McDuffie's Icon run had a good take on the abortion/teen pregnancy issue.

[whitesycamore]

Hey, you just reminded me of a thing I want/need to read!

[sea_dreamer]

While I agree there is such thing as a relatively angst free abortion, I believe it's more complicated in Eve's situation. Eve admitted that she did in fact want children with Mark albeit at a later date. Also she was in a relatively committed (albeit complicated) relationship with a degree of financial stability. All in all I can totally understand why this situation would be harder than if she didn't have money, or a partner or etc.. That being said my opinions are somewhat coloured by plans for the event of an unwanted pregnancy.

I actually give Kirkman credit for going where few comic writers tread, though I'll take it away if this causes their relationship deteriorates because of this.

That being said I kinda wanted to see Invincibaby.

Why this bothers me

[big_daddy_d]

In 2007, I graduated from high school. Before gradutation, I was calling family and friends to invite them. One in particular was my father, who I never met until I was 12. I never knew why. Even after meeting him, I didn't see him a lot, but honestly I wanted a deeper relationship with him. He's the reason I really got into comics, before then I merely watched t.v. shows based on comic characters. Met him, he collected cards and comics and introduced me to that world. Anyway, around graduation, called him, his phone is disconnected. Wouldn't be the first time. Figured he was having some trouble again, so no he wasn't at the graduation.

Tried a couple times after, told the phone was no longer in service. That bothered me because he had the number to the house, figured he'd have, idk at least called, let us know that maybe he had moved, changed his number, something. I felt guilty. Like maybe I wasn't being a good enough son. It was heart breaking.

Last year, I learned that my dad, never wanted kids. Never wanted to be in my life. The moment he no longer had to pay child support, that was it. When I thought about it, that's when it hit me, we haven't talked since he no longer had to pay it. I acted indifferent, but honestly, it fuckin hurts.
When I think of him now, I want to tell him "Fuck. You. Good riddance you jerk. When I have children of my own, I guarantee, I will be a 1,000 times better than you. I got through most of my life without you, I'll continue to make it, I'll get through college. I'll become a writer. I'll get married to my dream girl. I'll do it all. Without you."

The point I'm making? Aside from my own dad, how about I use Maury as an example. Real or fake, we see a situation of a woman with a child or children and the asshole claiming the kid isn't their's. When the results say "You Are NOT The Father" you see this guys fuckin breakdancing and throwing a celebration on stage. Rarely do you see a guy who is actually heartbroken that he isn't the father. Same case with those who are the father. What do you initially see? You see a guy who looks defeated. You can tell, they didn't want to be a father.

I had a former friend who thought that he was special. Low sperm count, so he thought he couldn't have kids. Wrong. You got men in this world..making kids left and right. Leave the women to deal with it alone. They want no part in the child's life. They think they're so special, like hey, I can have sex with as many women as I want, no protection, nothing. I prefer it raw, nothing's going to happen. Guess what? She's pregnant now. What do they do? Fuckin high tail it. They look for any excuse to not claim the child, going out of their way to make the woman look bad. They move on with their life, leaving the women to struggle and deal. If they do grow a heart, it's most likely too late, because a real man stepped up. To love that child. To give the child the guidance he or she needs. Or hell, maybe just like with my own mom, the mother did it all alone and the children turned out just damn fine and don't need the asshole.

You got assholes, who want nothing to do with a child and will abandone them. Then you have those with honor. Men who will not run away. Who will step the fuck up. Even if he and the mom aren't together, they look out for the children. They make sure they're children have as best a life as possible, making sure they have values, goals, the means to accomplish their dream and not end up on a negative path.

When it comes to abortion, honestly, I don't see a point in debate or making a law, because ultimately, it's a matter of choice, especially if one considers the circumstances under which a woman concieved. It's a matter of choice, I may disagree or agree with a choice, but it's a choice nonetheless.

Atom Eve is just now telling Mark that she had his child. She could've told him before. He could've stepped up and maybe be a great father. Or who knows, maybe consider adoption. Or even if they did ultimately still go with abortion, she should've fuckin told him before.

I understand the story. I understand Eve being scared. I understand if Kirkman wanted to explore a different route, especially if handled seriously and not with a wave of a hand or with ill timed jokes, but I don't fuckin like it and honestly, made Eve lose some cool points with me in that book.

It just...makes me hot.

Re: Why this bothers me

[auggie18]

Wasn't Mark off planet when Eve found out she was pregnant? I read Invincible in trades and this hasn't come out in trade yet, so my knowledge is spotty and comes pretty much from scans_daily. If he was off planet, then she'd have no idea when (or if, considering the high chance of him dying) he was coming back, and she had a fairly small period of time in which to make the decision.

[likeaminx]

Just a side note: It's not just men who abandon their children and don't step up.

Re: Why this bothers me

[sea_dreamer]

There's a lot I can about what you just said. Some that I agree with and some I don't, but I figure that would trivialize what you've been through.

*offers hugs*

[baihu]

Why didn't she just keep the baby till birth and put it up for adoption if the decision was going to affect her that much? I know this sounds very cruel of me, but I sort of agree with Kate in the sense, "WTF can you make a decision and live with it?"

Unless it's more guilt over killing an offspring of the guy, then I guess it's a different sort of guilt. Although honestly I always thought guilt over 'loss of progeny' is kinda creepy. Almost like if the baby wasn't his, then it'll be okay.

[schmevil]

Cruel? Yeah, actually. Also judgmental and terrifically ungenerous.