scans_daily: JL: Generation Lost

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@ 2011-04-27 02:39 pm UTC

Current mood:	pleased
Entry tags:	char: batman/bruce wayne, char: blue beetle/jaime reyes, char: booster gold/michael jon carter, char: fire/beatriz da costa, char: ice/tora olafsdotter, char: maxwell lord, char: power girl/kara zor-l/karen starr, char: rocket red 7/gavril ivanovich, creator: aaron lopresti, creator: hi-fi, creator: judd winick, creator: matt ryan, publisher: dc comics, title: justice league: generation lost

JL: Generation Lost - Epilogue

There's a fight. Heroes are awesome. Memories are returned. The day is saved. (Wonder Woman is drawn gorgeously. :3)

But what now?

Bring it on, DC. Bring. It. On.

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	no subject shanejayell 2011-04-27 06:52 pm UTC (link)
	Well, well well. Who's writing it? Depending on that, I may be on board. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject hybrid2 2011-04-27 09:44 pm UTC (link)
	Same here. I realy want to buy this. But never by Winnick. I'm still sad he made me drop Power Girl. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

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	no subject icon_uk 2011-04-27 07:05 pm UTC (link)
	Umm... how did Max get control of Checkmate? Is Checkmate somehow public now? How do Alan Scott, Mr Terrific, hell, Amanda Waller, feel about that? And would people really trust some self appointed internet non-entity who posts on youtube to become some sort of serious oversight for superheroes? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 9 comments) (Show 9 comments)

	no subject shanejayell 2011-04-27 07:06 pm UTC (link)
	Well, Waller was overthrown early on in the series. I think Sasha and Mr Terrific were running it. But it STILL doesn't make much sense.... (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 7 comments) (Show 7 comments)

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	no subject swatkat 2011-04-27 07:06 pm UTC (link)
	Um, how exactly do they 'save' Wondy? Do I even want to know? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 11 comments) (Show 11 comments)

	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-04-27 07:17 pm UTC (link)
	i think warning her about the Omacs (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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	no subject trafalgar 2011-04-27 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	Hmmm intersting. :) (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject trafalgar 2011-04-27 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	lmao such spelling fail (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

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	no subject daningram.insanejournal.com 2011-04-27 07:18 pm UTC (link)
	How many times has Lord escaped now? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject pyrotwilight 2011-04-27 07:30 pm UTC (link)
	Dunno. HE'S BLASTING OFF AGAIN! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

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	no subject darkknightjrk 2011-04-27 07:24 pm UTC (link)
	A JLI series with all the members, including Bruce, Power Girl, maybe even Wonder Woman? Hell yeah. :D (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject pyrotwilight 2011-04-27 07:36 pm UTC (link)
	I'm still saddened at the loss of the old Rocket Red. Gavril is indeed awesome but it's weird how few times Dimitri is brought up. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject synnerman 2011-04-27 07:34 pm UTC (link)
	So who's going to be baby sitting Superman's brain so he won't be turned into Max's weapon of choice? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject lieut_kettch 2011-04-28 02:35 am UTC (link)
	J'onn's back, so I guess Supes will be safe now that the resident JLA telepath knows what to look out for. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject sweettart1823 2011-04-27 07:40 pm UTC (link)
	I'm so Excited 8D Do you think it'll be written by Giffen and DeMatteis D: Please... (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject benicio127 2011-04-27 11:06 pm UTC (link)
	That's what I was interested in knowing, who will be writing it??? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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	no subject long_silence 2011-04-27 07:41 pm UTC (link)
	Did they lose all footage of Wonder Woman snapping Max's neck? Or did the whole Odyssey thing wipe that out too? On the plus side maybe now it won't show up in every other comic. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 6 comments) (Show 6 comments)

	no subject sweettart1823 2011-04-27 07:48 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, it wiped that out sort of, like when people viewed it they saw something totally different then the whole neck snapping thing. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 5 comments) (Show 5 comments)

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	no subject eldabe 2011-04-27 07:44 pm UTC (link)
	Whoa. Also have to wait for the team on that because who knows? Maybe I'll even go back to monthlies on that. (Reply to this)

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jaybee3
2011-04-27 07:53 pm UTC (link)

So in the end of the entire 26 week series, Max gets away with everything and Checkmate is evil again (not that I ever understood so many heroes like Bea or Alan Scott taking sides with even a so-called "reformed" Checkmate, aside from the fact Rucka was writing it so DC made it so). And the "heroes" look like dupes - again.

The real question is - is there ANY DC "event" in the Didio age that hasn't turned out to be just a springboard for yet another series readers have to buy to get the end of the story?

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	no subject q99 2011-04-27 08:06 pm UTC (link)
	Checkmate's a political organization. It's been good before Max got hold, it's been bad too. Lesse, Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis were both fairly definitive, weren't they? Maybe 52? (It had Booster Gold following up, but that's more of a sequel story than the end of 52's). (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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drexer
2011-04-27 08:04 pm UTC (link)

I kept with you through the beginning DC, when the going was slippery and the pathway was unclear. I kept with you when the indecision was high and the plot seemed made-up on the spot. I kept with you through the xenophobic retcon and the killing of a minority member which was both loved and funny. I kept with you until the very end with hopes that my money would help show you what you should do.

I'm happy to see that you took the right choice DC.

NOW DON'T DARE TO F*** THIS UP!

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	no subject siamesa 2011-04-27 08:17 pm UTC (link)
	New JLI? ...I will consider buying this. Consider. It better be better than what led up to it. And it REALLY better not be written by Winick. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject turtlefu 2011-04-27 08:35 pm UTC (link)
	AGREED JLI sounds awesome, but this Limited was really bad, and I don't want Winick's hands-of-horrible-writing anywhere near these characters EVER AGAIN. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject vitruvian23 2011-04-27 08:20 pm UTC (link)
	Now that the mindwipe is reversed and all of the physical evidence of Max's crimes, including the real dialogue between him and Diana before she snapped his neck and the forensic evidence that he shot Ted Kord in the head, can be seen for what it always was, how is he not in jail? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject daningram.insanejournal.com 2011-04-27 08:51 pm UTC (link)
	Escaped, pretty much. Dunno why he'd think that anyone would believe his pleas, though, especially given the fact that Captain Atom would be the first to absolve Magog and point the finger back at Max. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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ajremix.livejournal.com
2011-04-27 09:07 pm UTC (link)

I remember in the Manhunter title, Wonder Woman wanted to keep the fact that Max had mind-controlled Superman a secret, but Supes was willing to make it public in order to help her defense. Does anyone recall if that was made public knowledge or not? Because if it is, that would only leverage more 'Max, no one rational is going to believe a damn word you say' pile.

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	no subject shanejayell 2011-04-28 02:00 pm UTC (link)
	If I remember right the judge discussed it in a closed session, and it didn't go public. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject blackruzsa 2011-04-27 09:40 pm UTC (link)
	FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF okay, I call this a win. (Reply to this)

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ilmari
2011-04-27 09:42 pm UTC (link)

I haven't read the series (and I dislike what I've heard enough so that I have no plans to either) so I don't know if this is addressed - but is there anything to prevent Max from from altering the memories of everyone on the flipping planet again?

I mean seriously, controlling Superman was bad enough, but that power to affect everyone on Earth is just ridiculous.

In fact, I'd say a lot of the stories I hate about DC in the past 5-10 years have involved various icky mind control/brainwashing scenarios. These include the mind wipes revealed in Identity Crisis, the Power Girl stories at the start of JSA Classified, Catwoman having been mind wiped (and then Zatanna being brought in to do it again in Gotham City Sirens), Max controlling Superman, and now Max altering everyone's memories.

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deepspaceartist
2011-04-27 11:48 pm UTC (link)

Max says earlier in the series that the worldwide mindwipe was a one time thing. It took so much out of him and required direct blood transfusion during it, that he says that doing it again would kill him.

Not to say he wasn't lying, or that he wouldn't find anything worth himself dying to implant in the world's mind.

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	no subject auggie18 2011-04-27 09:42 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, this is really nice art. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject perletwo 2011-04-27 11:46 pm UTC (link)
	Aaron Lopresti, gawd how I've missed him drawing Diana! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	So, basically… bewareofgeek 2011-04-27 10:52 pm UTC (link)
	After 24 issues, and almost a year of stories, the BAD GUY WON? Lovely, just lovely…. (Reply to this)

	no subject ejne7 2011-04-27 11:02 pm UTC (link)
	I've bought and read every issue of this book and just spoilered myself here because I didn't make it from work to my LCS before it shut. And I am fucking crying with the awesome. Thanks, DC. Properly. (Reply to this)

	no subject big_daddy_d 2011-04-28 12:01 am UTC (link)
	So...after all that..Maxwell Lord..still fucking got away? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject fleur_de_liz 2011-04-28 01:26 am UTC (link)
	Somewhere, Ted Kord is flipping a table and cursing colorfully. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

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benicio127
2011-04-28 12:09 am UTC (link)

Even though I enjoyed this title written by Winick, I actually don't want him writing it. The Ice retcon was a major misstep and honestly... I really just want him writing a Jason Todd ongoing and concentrating on that. And he's great at the Batfamily, maybe they can take Tony Daniel off Batman and put him on that, or let him write Green Arrow again because Krul's GA is awful (when is he going to get out of the fucking forest? When is Mia going to come back? Where's Connor?) I picked up GA today and was like oh, hey maybe he's fighting Ents? But then I was like it's not, but if it was, it would be a LOT better than whatever this is.

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	no subject bwhahahabeck 2011-04-28 02:14 am UTC (link)
	1. JUSTLICE LEAGUE INTENRIOATLNALDJOSAD!! 2. Please fix the Ice retcon. Please. It's hideous. (Reply to this)

	no subject lieut_kettch 2011-04-28 02:37 am UTC (link)
	I am SOOOOO psyched for the JLI series. Yesyesyes please. Besides the core heroes, I'd like to see Bruce, Wally (it's not like he's been doing anything lately) and Karen join up. And the Ghost Dibneys and one of the Marvels. (Reply to this)

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lbd_nytetrayn
2011-04-28 10:19 am UTC (link)

So, this is sort of like the DC equivalent of the SRA, I guess? Super powered humans, people caught up in the havoc, accountability, join this, etc.?

And I don't get Batman's "plan." I mean, Lord was speaking well of JLI, and so his answer is... JLI? I feel like I missed a step.

...and when are we going to get Justice League Unlimited on up in here already?

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

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	no subject ebailey140 2011-04-28 04:03 pm UTC (link)
	Well, it's not like Bruce can say "A lot of dark things came out of the Iron Age, but the JLI was one of the fun things from that era, and deserves a revival." (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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