scans_daily: The Trial of Sinestro

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@ 2011-05-02 11:20 pm UTC

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char: green lantern/hal jordan, char: kilowog, char: sinestro, publisher: dc comics, title: green lantern

The Trial of Sinestro

From EMERALD DAWN II: 90 Days. Some of the details of how Sinestro got kicked out of the Green Lantern Corps. I don't know to what degree Geoff Johns' "Secret Origin" changed it, although I know Hal Jordan didn't serve 90 Days for drunk driving anymore.

I think Sinestro is genuinely surprised by how much Katma Tui hates him.

So, for a while there, Sinestro's motivation was "If you think me evil, I might as well BE evil!"
Is Sinestro flipping off the Guardians?

Katma Tui is given the Green Lantern ring to take over for Sinestro. It doesn't end too well for her.

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thehefner
2011-05-03 03:52 am UTC (link)

I'm really annoyed at how Emerald Dawn I and II are both ignored by Geoff Johns (and thus unknown to most modern readers) and shunned by older comic fans. These were great books, and some of the best takes on Hal that I've ever seen. He was actually flawed and human.

That said, I think Sinestro has been absolutely brilliant under Johns, but this mini-series was the only other time before Sinestro Corps War that the character was anything other than a Snidely Whiplash villain.

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	no subject eightleggedbeast 2011-05-03 12:30 pm UTC (link)
	(I actually like what I see of Hal here and will buy the comic. Tell no-one.) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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starwolf_oakley
2011-05-03 06:25 pm UTC (link)

Hal doesn't have to have a drunk driving charge to be uncertain about his place as a Green Lantern. Hal obviously wouldn't want to take over a planet to "save" it, and he can also be very worried about slipping too far into either fascism or anarchy.

Korugar society has a near pathological hatred of all Green Lanterns they hated Sinestro so much. Maybe Johns could take a "deeper" look at Korugar society, what threat the Khunds posed, and if part of what drove Sinestro over the edge was that Korugarrians (?) didn't seem to appreciate his actions to save them. "Sinestro is evil because the Korugarrians were spiteful ingrates" is an interesting theory.

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trafalgar
2011-05-03 04:15 am UTC (link)

Johns hasn't covered Sinestro's fall, other than bits and pieces mentioned here and there. The parts that have been mentioned do keep Sinestro's whole going nuts over ruling Korugar and trial the same, as far as I can tell. Hal's whole dui/crippled-dead friend/prison thing is gone though. Which personally makes me pretty happy, since I didn't really enjoy the whole prison stint, other than Sinestro popping in and being hilarious.

(OT: John Constantine's time in prison for Lucky's suicide is probably the only comic prison story I really enjoyed. Oh Stanley you horrible man you~~~)

Although I really did enjoy Hal calling Sinestro "Sin" lmao. Adorable. Also looking at this again totally gets me excited about Secret Origins II...whenever it comes out. :D

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baxter2814
2011-05-03 04:45 am UTC (link)

Damn, Emerald Dawn was great. They were some of the first views I ever got of Hal Jordan, and they're a major reason I still twitch in irritation whenever someone calls Hal boring. Yeah he's boring now. He wasn't then. Same with Supes — you want to retcon out all the things that rub the wrong way and make your characters flat and boring? Fine see if I care — this is still personal canon for me. Anyway, my pull list has dwindled alarmingly and will stay that way until the fallout of Blackest Night and Brightest Day has passed, and I'm perfectly happy living in obliviousness while collecting what feels like every mainstream non-sucky DC superhero Dark Age comic in existence.

Speaking of the Dark Age — another thing that has always confused me is the vitriol people spew at the Dark Age. Because really, while independent comics were horrific then, and Marvel got slammed really hard, and pretty much all new characters introduced were made of fail, a lot of the mainstream superhero comics, at least at DC and especially fairly early post-Crisis, were actually usually damn good as long as you hammered a certain measure of cognitive dissonance into your head to factor out the variable of random intrusions of '90s excess. They were often on par with Bronze Age Marvel in depth, and didn't have the random idiocy of modern comics — even their godawful screwups *cough* Hal Jordan *cough* were whole-hog and deliberate and thought-out. Come on, am I being crazy here or is there anyone who agrees?

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	no subject domino_blue 2011-05-03 04:50 am UTC (link)
	I actually agree I would even argue that not all of Marvel's stuff was all dreck during that age either. I mean it gave us the Death of Harry Osborn, Chase,Thunderbolts,and plenty of other good comics.I love Captain Atom and hell even Green Lantern. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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baxter2814
2011-05-03 06:37 am UTC (link)

Well, Marvel IMHO was far, far better than DC until the Dark Age, whereas the Dark Age was in a lot of ways DC's peak in terms of quality. Of course, that doesn't mean Marvel was complete crap — I just think the '90s stereotypes got integrated a lot farther into their mainstream titles, especially with the X Men spin offs and everything to do with the Clone Saga, whereas DC avoided a lot of it, and actually did a lot of beating up on the anti-hero hype with Knightfall and the Reign of the Supermen.

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thehefner
2011-05-03 05:07 am UTC (link)

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	no subject aeolos_sakya 2011-05-03 05:14 am UTC (link)
	I agree. While my first Lantern was Kyle Rayner, I got to read Emerald Dawn. I really liked that Hal. He wasn't the "such amazing and perfect guy" Johns keeps trying to show us. While I enjoy the recent Green Lantern's stories, if we could have this Hal back, I'd probably enjoy them a bit more. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

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starwolf_oakley
2011-05-03 06:50 am UTC (link)

Well, it's hard to tell if Hal Jordan is "such amazing and perfect guy" as a Green Lantern, or because he gets all the ladies.

Of course, a lot of superheroes get all the ladies. Even an "everyman" like Peter Parker gets stuck in love triangles. I wonder if "Flashpoint" will end with Barry Allen not being married to Iris anymore, allowing Barry to be "such amazing and perfect guy."

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	no subject baxter2814 2011-05-03 01:28 pm UTC (link)
	Dude, you are tearing me apart! I am trying to live in denial here! Spidey =/= BND!Spidey! GAH! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject starwolf_oakley 2011-05-03 02:22 pm UTC (link)
	I was thinking more of the 1960s-1980s Spider-Man. Even in the Ditko years, Peter was in a love triangle with Betty Brant and Liz Allen. The Michelle/Carlie triangle we don't have to worry about. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject baxter2814 2011-05-03 02:32 pm UTC (link)
	Ah okay. Well, I don't mind that kind of love triangle...as long it, you know, happens organically instead of being retconned back in. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject aeolos_sakya 2011-05-03 05:18 am UTC (link)
	Oh, yeah. I remember when I first read this. A spanish version. It was fun to read. Wonder how this will go under Johns' pen. (Reply to this)

	no subject ar_feiniel 2011-05-04 02:17 am UTC (link)
	I love Emerald Dawn II -- one of the best Sinestro appearances IMHO. (Reply to this)

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