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So power is all he looks to.

4 scans from Daken #9, with some sniktling bonding time! The last of it.

"Maybe I don't have a heart, Laura. Maybe power is all I have.

All I need."

I wish Laura could make him understand more. Anyway, at least at the end we get another moment of Daken being nice to kids. That's probably the only bit of decency and general goodness he's managed consistently in... ever.

Date: 2011-05-12 12:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drmcninja
This is a great character dynamic they have going. Both genetic masterpieces, both so similar in upbringing, but both holding such different beliefs as superlative. And both making great arguments about it. I would like X to stay with Daken for a bit, we could get some great development out of the both of them.

Also, what is Elektra doing there?

Date: 2011-05-12 01:21 am (UTC)
sevarem: Phoenix!Jean is happy (Default)
From: [personal profile] sevarem
Wow, Daken's coming off as... really cliched. His dialogue reads like a paint-by-numbers villain. Quite honestly, I expected more here. Nice visual where they're both going ka-boom, but the dialogue is just painful.

Date: 2011-05-12 01:34 am (UTC)
stolisomancer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
Daken's real superpower is making his writer think he's reciting a deep, soulful monologue.

Date: 2011-05-12 10:34 am (UTC)
sevarem: Phoenix!Jean is happy (Default)
From: [personal profile] sevarem
Quite so.

Date: 2011-05-12 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
And to convince the writer that Daken's actually clever, instead of just making everyone around him stupid.

Date: 2011-05-12 07:33 pm (UTC)
stolisomancer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
Under Liu's pen, he's actually not bad at manipulation and playing a long game, but his inner monologue makes me want to keep punching him until something in his skull goes DING and I win a teddy bear.

Date: 2011-05-12 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Honestly, I'm still waiting for him to do something clever or not cliche. All he ever seems to do is stab people in the back (most who have little reason to trust him), or use the most obvious means possible (like threatening family members).

And what makes it even worse is we don't know what's him, and what's his stupid pheremone powers.

Date: 2011-05-13 12:04 am (UTC)
sevarem: Phoenix!Jean is happy (Default)
From: [personal profile] sevarem
And I've yet to see what the *point* of the character is either. If he's supposed to be a straight up villain, fine, I can go with that. If he's supposed to be on a twisted redemption quest, even better. As it stands right now, he just seems to wander from place to place, spouting ham fisted dialogue meant to show the reader how dark and clever he is. And it's... just not working.

Date: 2011-05-13 02:14 am (UTC)
stolisomancer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
The point appears to be Angsty Bisexual Main Character + Dark Twisted Past + Dark Twisted Present + Crossover Audience from Best-Selling Romance Novelist Marjorie Liu = Dark Wolverine. There's a certain kind of fan for whom a character like Daken is chocolate-covered crack rocks, and that fan is almost never approached in the mainstream comics industry.

It's an odd approach and I'm glad they're taking it if only because it's such a weird book in today's market, but the book's never really appealed to me.

Date: 2011-05-13 02:57 am (UTC)
sevarem: Phoenix!Jean is happy (Default)
From: [personal profile] sevarem
Yeah, I can see that and I certainly don't begrudge the readers who are really enjoying the book and the character. It's just that I found him to be so much fun in Dark Avengers that it's really disappointing to see a fun, snarky character turned into a character who spouts clunkers like "caring is a weakness!" I'm waiting for him to strike a pose and shout "the weak are food for the strong!" or something.

Date: 2011-05-12 03:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sherkahn
It's because when he's being honest, Daken is empty inside. Actually, both of them are. Laura is trying hard to better herself and fill her emotional core with other things to draw strength and joy from other than the abuse and pain of others. Daken "retreats" to that state when anything comes close to getting through his emotional armor, clawing away at anything that dares get close to him. Only when he seems to be using others does he pretend to be vulnerable.

Date: 2011-05-12 10:34 am (UTC)
sevarem: Phoenix!Jean is happy (Default)
From: [personal profile] sevarem
That may be so, and based on what else I've read with Daken, I believe that. But that's still no excuse for poorly written, stilted dialogue that reads like a ham fisted attempt at DARKNESS.

Date: 2011-05-13 12:05 am (UTC)
sevarem: Phoenix!Jean is happy (Default)
From: [personal profile] sevarem
Unless we get Dan Slott writing. ;)

Date: 2011-05-13 09:50 pm (UTC)
sevarem: Phoenix!Jean is happy (Default)
From: [personal profile] sevarem
Rob Liefield...

Date: 2011-05-12 01:34 am (UTC)
generator_rex: I frankensteined this guy from images found in the All Spark Almanac. The character is Heinrad from Beast Wars Neo. (Default)
From: [personal profile] generator_rex
Last thought for Colcord: "Well Malcom, you always wanted go out with a bang."

Date: 2011-05-12 07:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
He's got his face, or is it whole body this time, messed up by two relatives of Wolverine? The guy can't catch a break, can he?

Not that he deserves one. Heck, Hate-Monger is more likely to earn one before him.

Date: 2011-05-12 01:55 am (UTC)
likeaminx: (Default)
From: [personal profile] likeaminx
That explosion page is so BEAUTIFUL. I want it as my wallpaper.

Loved the bonding. Wish for it to happen again, though I doubt it will because comics hate us.

Date: 2011-05-12 05:52 am (UTC)
selke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selke
I had the exact same thought. I want to at least get it on my phone. So pretty.

Date: 2011-05-12 02:07 am (UTC)
harpers_child: melaka fray reading from "Tales of the Slayers". (Default)
From: [personal profile] harpers_child
it's a watchmen tribute explosion. that's so cute.

Date: 2011-05-12 02:08 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
okay really squicky... conscidering that Laura is a female clone of his father she is kinda his mother/sister? (god how does that even work...) but a very small, dark twisted part kind ships them based on these pages....

but a bigger part of me ships daken with johnny and gambit :D

Date: 2011-05-12 03:44 am (UTC)
funbox: Funbox! (Default)
From: [personal profile] funbox
The only way I could see Daken and Gambit is Gambit waking up with a giant hangover with no memory of what happened, looks over to his other side and just seeing Daken with the biggest grin he can manage

Date: 2011-05-12 04:11 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
i would TOTALLY pay for that :D

Date: 2011-05-12 11:31 am (UTC)
joasakura: (Default)
From: [personal profile] joasakura
the what now? :Perks:

Date: 2011-05-12 03:57 am (UTC)
sherkahn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sherkahn
Let's just say Aunt and call it even.

Date: 2011-05-12 09:27 am (UTC)
schala_kid: Stephanie Brown as Batgirl (Default)
From: [personal profile] schala_kid
In the comic Gambit mentioned questioned their relationship and said something along the lines of Laura being like his mother, Daken didn't take kindly to that comment though (because Daken's mother is a touchy topic to him).

IMO since Wolverine kinda adopted her as his kid, I'm guessing sister would be the right choice of words now.

Date: 2011-05-12 03:19 am (UTC)
thosefew: bored death (Default)
From: [personal profile] thosefew
They should move apart or their rapid healing might fuse them together.

Date: 2011-05-12 07:06 am (UTC)
sadoeuphemist: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sadoeuphemist
Oh euughhhh damn you for that mental image

Date: 2011-05-12 07:21 pm (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
That would be Two-Bad.

Mecha-Nerd points if you get it.

Date: 2011-05-12 04:36 am (UTC)
tsunamiwombat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
Lets close on a shot with them with NO skin but throw in some chicks ass, just cause.


Date: 2011-05-12 04:50 am (UTC)
ravenous_raven: Combo headshot of Cass Cain, Steph Brown, and Babs Gordon, the 3 Batgirls, "Bow to the Goddammned Batgirls" in a corner (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
Yeah, I thought so too. Never just you! We can focus on the dialogue if we don't want to look at the skin-less figures, using a barely-covered-butt is just ham-fisted.

Date: 2011-05-12 11:22 am (UTC)
tsunamiwombat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
Usually i'm all for nekkid butt too. But cheesecake just seems starkely out of place here.
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Date: 2011-05-12 07:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rainspirit
Kind of amazed Laura's hair stayed on when her skin didn't. Are her shining dark locks fire-retardant or something? o_O

Date: 2011-05-12 09:22 am (UTC)
schala_kid: Stephanie Brown as Batgirl (Default)
From: [personal profile] schala_kid
I kind of like that in the end he was sincere to her, no more games and other crap he pulls on people, and he talked for the first time in a long time to someone he thought of as an equal. Also I think Daken initially wanted to play her and Malcolm Colcord but somewhere along the way he just went along with her. And I really loved the part where he took his mask for a moment while she was mourning the Weapon X creatures she just killed, kind of felt a bit intimate.

But he really is emotionally stunted because he likes her yet he can't comprehend it. Nevertheless the ending reminds us he still is a grade A bastard (he decieves Laura by keeping Colcord alive even if it's just to torture him and the way he acts is like nothing happened).

Overall I really, really, enjoyed this and I hope that we have another Laura and Daken team up very soon (Wouldn't mind Logan being in it).

Date: 2011-05-12 02:48 pm (UTC)
blunderbuss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blunderbuss
I got to 'caring is a weakness' and eyerolled so hard that my eyeballs fell out. Now I am blind.

But seriously? If any writer, anywhere, writes that line with total seriousness, then I propose that someone should hit their writing hand with a heavy paperweight. STOP THAT SHIT.

Date: 2011-05-13 12:07 am (UTC)
sevarem: Phoenix!Jean is happy (Default)
From: [personal profile] sevarem
Yeah, Daken's ham fisted dialogue is pretty cringe worthy. And yet, I keep wanting to like him because I loved the hell outta him in Dark Avengers.

Date: 2011-05-12 07:20 pm (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
They should have their own series where they travel to quirky little towns and solve mysteries.

Date: 2011-05-13 10:26 am (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Daken's just a big emo kid with a 80s mohawk :P
Is it only me or is the bonding between Wolverine-clone X-23 and Daken a bit...err..akward? I mean, really.

Date: 2011-05-13 08:25 pm (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
That's what I'd expect from the "Wolverines". Yep, that's what I'm calling them.
Batman has the Bat-clan, Supes the Superman-family. Logan got the WOOOOOLVERIIIIIINES!!


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