Joker is God. Amen.

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

So last post... last day... Joker/Harley week. Sniff, sniff.


Anyways this is my favourite scene from the novelization of No Man's Land by Greg Rucka. A lot of it a more detailed version of the comics, but he did add some great bits. I would highly, highly, highly, highly recommend this book to anyone. It's a great read and has some beautiful Cass/Babs scenes. His Babara Gordon is AMAZING. Seriously. Her anger over Huntress... gahhh... well I don't want to spoil it for you, but get it. GET IT!

And for legality, a scan from Mad Love.


This requires a bit of reading.... but it's only a couple of pages!

I'm not sure which is my favourite part of this page. "You have WHO tied up WHERE?" or Joker imagining Riddler saying: "Oh yeah... that's what's his name... you know... Mr. Harley Quinn." LOL!

Comments

I have that book

[crinsommask.insanejournal.com]

it's a fun little read

Re: I have that book

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

It is!

[blake_reitz.insanejournal.com]

I'm always impressed when these novelizations turn out better then the original material. It kind of makes me wish for a giant graphic novel of the novelization of the comic.

[proteus_lives.insanejournal.com]

I like novelizations of comics and movies. They make for great light-reading. Alan Dean Foster has them done to a science.

[blake_reitz.insanejournal.com]

Man, I'm pretty sure that if I made a list of authors I read in middle (and high) school, Alan Dean Foster would be at the top of the "most read." I still recommend his novelization of "The Dig" to just about anyone.

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

I know, I wish they'd use a lot of this material in the comics. Same with the novelization of Superman's death.

[filthysize.livejournal.com (from insanejournal.com)]

Last panel... is that supposed to be Mick Belker on the far left?

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA.

Yes. For these purposes, we'll say it is.

[filbypott.insanejournal.com]

"Joker is God. Amen."

Well, maybe in the Gnostic sense...

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

HAHHAHA!!!

Only in Harley's brain.

THIS WEEK CANNOT END!

[captain_clown.insanejournal.com]

Noooooooooo! Clowns belong with clowns!!!

And Mark Hamill's voice was screaming that first panel in my ears.

Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END!

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

I know!!!! :-(

I really wish they would've added bits like Joker's thoughts while he's driving in the car, Harley's delusional future life ("Well then you just poison him right back."), etc. to the animated episode.
I have the BTAS complete series and during the commentary for Harlequinade, Dini said the Joker/Harley relationship is popular enough for people to want to see a show of them all on their own. ;-)

Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END!

[captain_clown.insanejournal.com]

Yeah the Joker's thoughts in the car really should have been added, and, MYGOD a Joker/Harley show *drool* it could come on right after the Batman/Deadpool hour :D

I still don't have the complete BTAS only 1 & 2 because living in the UK means that those swines at WB won't release the rest until Nolan film number 3 :(

Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END!

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

Damn those Brits and Scots! Uhh ... j/k. :-P
Actually, the complete series was sold out everywhere here so I just bought it on Amazon. Have you tried that?

Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END!

[captain_clown.insanejournal.com]

Tried and failed, Amazon themselves are always sold out and only have people selling their copies, which from past experience buying from them is never a good idea. Its cool though, I've got the rest downloaded I just really want them for the commentary and to have a complete collection :D

Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END!

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

You know, I was surprised they didn't have a commentary on Mad Love. I mean for God's sake, they could've talked about the graphic novel and how/why they decided to put in animated TV form.... sniff.

Myself and 90scartoonman had a post on noscans_daily awhile ago asking people what they thought about the final scene of Mad Love (the rose scene). http://community.livejournal.com/noscans_daily/70408.html
;-D

Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END!

[captain_clown.insanejournal.com]

They didn't do a Mad Love commentary? What!? Was Paul Dini ill or something :S

http://community.livejournal.com/noscans_daily/70408.html annnnnnnd there go my plans for the day :D

Re: THIS WEEK CANNOT END!

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

hey didn't do a Mad Love commentary? What!? Was Paul Dini ill or something :S

I don't know, but it hurt, I tell ya, it hurt. Inside, ya know? Just... I can't even talk about it! :P

[daningram.insanejournal.com]

What are the Cass/Babs scenes about?

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

Basically it's Cass's first encounter with the Bat-team and she can't speak properly. Babs is teaching her how to speak. According to the novel, Babs is also the one who christens her "Cassandra" as there's no other way to address Cass at that point in time. (She can't speak, therefore can't say her name).

(Tho I'm not sure if Babs giving Cass her name is regular continuity??)

[parsimonia.insanejournal.com]

(Tho I'm not sure if Babs giving Cass her name is regular continuity??)

I don't think I've actually read Cass's first comic appearances during NML. But Babs is the only person I can think of who would name her Cassandra. Before Cass appeared, IIRC there were a number of instances where Barbara used "Cassandra" as a fake name. And there's the Cassandra from Greek mythology who had dreams about the future and made prophecies or whatever. I could be wrong but I think that makes Cassandra count as an oracle of sorts, so there's a connection.

[mysteryfan.insanejournal.com]

Okay, my heart is now officially broken.
I knew he didn't talk to her, but I never knew he didn't even name her.

[parsimonia.insanejournal.com]

Well, if he never spoke to her, how could she have a name that she would be aware of? And when Batman and Barbara first met her, they didn't know Cain was her real father or where she came from, so they had no way of finding a birth record or anything.

[mysteryfan.insanejournal.com]

It hadn't occurred to me that *that* was the case. I got you, but ... even beyond the cruelty of doing so, it seems impractical to teach/train somebody without ever naming a person. It's the first thing we tend to do to all of the things around us: Name it.

[parsimonia.insanejournal.com]

It's the first thing we tend to do to all of the things around us: Name it.

It's true. And when you think about how much restraint a person would have to have to never speak a word during all that time spent together...he might have found it best not to name her, so he wouldn't be tempted to call her something.

Mind you, they may have had some of non-verbal "names" of a sort for each other, kind of like sign language. But my impression is that Cass would have never heard a single word spoken in all the time she was being raised by Cain until she ran away.

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

Agreed. It's as if he didn't even give her the decency of a name. Some people even name a goldfish. He didn't even give her that amount of humanity: a name.
I kinda wanna punch Cain in the face right now.

A bit of Cass love...

[benicio127.insanejournal.com]

I know, it is terribly sad. Cain was a horrible father who only taught his daughter to speak in violence.

And yet, unlike the Rogues Gallery villains (who have similar issues: bad parenting, bullying, abuse), she doesn't take on this traumatic experience and turn it into hate.

Re: A bit of Cass love...

[mysteryfan.insanejournal.com]

Yes. I see her as a very noble character.

Re: A bit of Cass love...

[daningram.insanejournal.com]

Wish DC don't. They're on a massive pre determination kick at the moment, and Cass was the first POW of that war. At least she escaped though, unlike poor Jericho...

Hn.

[lego_joker]

That's usually how Bruce does it, right? Or is it more of a "Hrm."? ;)

I think that Greg Rucka's one of the worst Joker writers out there - how Endgame played out STILL leaves a sour taste in my mouth about all of NML, even though 80-90% of it was sheer awesomeness - but I do have to admit that the NML novelization featured some of his most competent moments with Mistah J.

This particular moment is meh, but that part where Rucka details exactly what Joker's been up to in Arkham before he met up with Harley? That, for the most part, was pure gold. Possibly because it didn't feature a single line of dialogue.