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Entry tags:char: alfred pennyworth, char: black bat/batgirl/cassandra cain, char: dr. simon hurt/thomas wayne, char: green arrow/oliver queen, char: katana/tatsu yamashiro, char: man-bat/kirk langstrom, char: metamorpho/element man/rex mason, char: penguin/oswald cobblepot, char: robin/nightwing/dick grayson, char: robin/red robin/tim drake, char: spoiler/batgirl/robin/steph brown, creator: frank tieri, creator: ryan benjamin, title: batman and the outsiders
The other Batgirl "mini".





As Chuck Dixon left the book a lot of plot lines dangled. Even more, Pete Tomasi was announced to be going on the book with #15. So what to do with this team of Outsiders? Well Frank Tieri recently off Gotham Underground was put in to clean-up and prepare the way while also closing these plot threads and starting some others (namely the Battle for the Cowl event).

#11 starts off with Superman rushing to Wayne Manor and finding Ollie drunk and lounging about. He then brushes Supes up on the current events going on with Batman (namely Batman R.I.P.) and shows him a ravaged Bat-cave.

Cass on the other hand is being more proactive in matters of locating Bruce:







Tieri's pet character from Underground, Johnny Stitches shows his face, Cass is not amused:



Okay I love that last panel of Cass.

Elsewhere, Katana and Geo-Force arrive at the Bat-signal to find a bewildered Jim Gordon. Obviously, the possible loss of Batman is hitting him but there's another thing too. He then points to events going on below where Dick is just going batshit insane (he's still in dick mode from the mini). Of course they back off all O_o at it. So the team regroups at the apartment:





A possible back-up plan of Bats?! Possibly, but as the next issue opens someone didn't survive. Who? Poor REMAC. Both Ollie and Cass see thru the video (Ollie on just gut while Cass using her skills knows it isn't Bruce by the way "Bruce" on the video talks). They set up to use the coordinates provided via Remac. Unfortunately, he downloads a virus which makes the entire floor go boom. Thunder gets put in the hospital while Metamorpho is left reforming himself.

Cass takes the brunt of the guilt from Grace. So for Remac's funeral:





You're probably wondering what Kurt is doing here? His wife works for the Outsiders so he came with her.







Cass begins recruiting heroes and vigilantes to her cause. First up Man-Bat (after all he did give her that business card first). After him, why a certain someone VERY close to Cass:





And that's really all we get of Cass and Steph the entire time since the later's return and until Batgirl vol. 4 #1 *sob*. If only DC gave Fab just an extra bit of time we would have seen a more proper reunion with possible hugs (he confirmed this on forums if he had an extra issue he would have had a Cass appearance and pad more of Steph's character then rush to that end point given to him).







Yeah that's Dick and he so wants to talk. Though by talking he means of course by fighting. Damnit Dick! You're supposed to be better than this!

So yeah #14 picks up with Dick "talking" things over with Cass:




They continue to brawl until the Bat-mobile stops and gives them both the high beams. A person steps out as Dick instantly thinks, "Batman?!" We then cut to an amusing flashback before the fight where the Riddler (during his detective days) solves a crime via flashy way. I really wanted to put this in here and it's a great Edward moment, but alas Cass parts had to be put in. So as he gets in his car, Cass turns out to be his driver and then "asks" him to be in her Network. It's at this time Dick lands on the hood smashing the window to start his "talk" with Cass.

Back to the present:





Go Alfred! GO ALFRED!




And thus Dick stopped being a dick to Cass. Oh and there's another thing I left out. Throughout the issue some dude is whipping himself. He then shows up at the end having watched Dick/Cass's "talk". Who is he? Why the new Azrael.



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cypherfdp: (elctricity, electric, lightning, mouse, pikachu, pokemon, rat, thief, thunder)


[personal profile] cypherfdp
2011-06-06 02:12 am UTC (link)
It can be in every comic from now until the end of time, I'll never stop laughing to myself over "Master Dick".

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featheredserpent: (Reject Christ Receive Batman)

Anatomy? What's that?


[personal profile] featheredserpent
2011-06-06 02:33 am UTC (link)
Ugh, the Faces!

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Re: Anatomy? What's that?


[personal profile] sleepymax
2011-06-06 02:55 am UTC (link)
Yeah, this art is pretty ugly.

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zechs80: (pic#844774)

Re: Anatomy? What's that?


[personal profile] zechs80
2011-06-06 03:04 am UTC (link)
Yeah.. this is early Ryan Benjamin art (Batman Beyond).

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dewinged: (Chill)


[personal profile] dewinged
2011-06-06 02:37 am UTC (link)
Wait, wasn't this the 'it's called Batman and the Outsiders, but there's no actual Batman or Outsiders in it' Tieri issues?

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zechs80: (pic#844774)


[personal profile] zechs80
2011-06-06 03:02 am UTC (link)
Yes.

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[personal profile] q99
2011-06-06 04:22 am UTC (link)
It really was Batgirl for those issues there :)

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proteus_lives: (Ron Swanson)


[personal profile] proteus_lives
2011-06-06 03:07 am UTC (link)
So Johnny Sitches is Jigsaw.

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zechs80: (pic#844774)


[personal profile] zechs80
2011-06-06 03:27 am UTC (link)
He is a bit different. He has parts of people attached to him and continues to attach pieces of his victim to himself.

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khamelea: (DMetal, Uranium)


[personal profile] khamelea
2011-06-06 05:14 am UTC (link)
Doesn't that make his own body evidence admissible in a court of law against himself?

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mrstatham: (pic#927958)


[personal profile] mrstatham
2011-06-06 11:44 am UTC (link)
That has got to be the most idiotic concept for a Batman foe yet, and I say that having liked the likes of Pix. Talk about ridiculous.

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[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-06-06 02:55 pm UTC (link)
Who was Pix?

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mrstatham: (pic#927958)


[personal profile] mrstatham
2011-06-06 02:59 pm UTC (link)
She was a rape victim in one of the Gotham Knights stories who used nanomachines and her tattooing skills to kill the men who raped her.

http://www.comicvine.com/pix/29-60392/

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auggie18: (Karate Kid)


[personal profile] auggie18
2011-06-06 03:20 am UTC (link)
I kinda like the Question-esque mask style for Cass and the team concept is really interesting. It would've been cool to see it get off of the ground.


This reminds me, though. Didn't Steph have some sort of teleporting/invisibility power when she first came back from the dead? (Or back from Africa, I guess.) What happened to that?

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zechs80: (pic#844774)


[personal profile] zechs80
2011-06-06 03:28 am UTC (link)
Tieri was the only one who used it. But I think Fab mentioned it briefly as Steph losing it.

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shadowpsykie: Information (Oracle)


[personal profile] shadowpsykie
2011-06-06 04:51 pm UTC (link)
yeah i THINK Fab used it in Red Robin... she used it to sneak up on Tim and he Choked her (on reflex)

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[personal profile] q99
2011-06-06 04:23 am UTC (link)
You can sorta see it in use here, and yea, invisibility suit thingy. Last seen here.

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[personal profile] q99
2011-06-06 04:23 am UTC (link)
Thing I will note about this issue: Nightwing acknowledged the adopting :)

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[personal profile] omgwtflolbbqbye
2011-06-06 04:35 am UTC (link)
I sort of dropped out of the Bat-books until 'R.I.P.' was over cause I really wasn't feeling it, but I did like the idea of Cass and Alfred reforming the Outsiders to create a piece-meal Batman, with a different person coming in to contribute their expertise in one of the many fields that Batman was a master act.

I actually thought that would have been an interesting theme to explore with the Bat-kids for a while; while each of Bruce's protege's all learned the fundamentals of Batman's operations, each one could end up excelling over the others (and maybe even Bruce in the very long run) in one of the many fields that constitute being Batman, based on their personal interests and personalities. Like Cass would be the obvious martial art and combat expert, Tim could be the detective, Dick would be leadership/inspirational, etc.

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[personal profile] omgwtflolbbqbye
2011-06-06 04:44 am UTC (link)
I also want to add that I like that Alfred breaks up Dick and Cass's brawl by flashing the highbeams on the Batmobile cause it makes me think that when the Batfamily has a fight/argument in the Batcave he flicks the lightswtiches on and off, and threatens "down make me come down there!"

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[personal profile] star_of_airdrie
2011-06-06 05:43 am UTC (link)
yes; the old, 'don't make me get out of this car...'

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celestialchild: icon made by gate_shipland@livejournal.com (Avatar Kiyoshi)


[personal profile] celestialchild
2011-06-06 04:50 am UTC (link)
Gorgeous panel of Cass in the Batcave squatting on the chair with the flowing cape. She's so cool.

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shadowpsykie: Information (Oracle)


[personal profile] shadowpsykie
2011-06-06 04:54 pm UTC (link)
i imagine a Giant Fan behind the Bat Computer used to make the cape flow like that :D

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[personal profile] celestialchild
2011-06-06 06:40 pm UTC (link)
Hahaha That, or her awesomeness makes capes fly!

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jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Batgirl, Cassandra Cain)


[personal profile] jaybee3
2011-06-06 05:06 am UTC (link)
One of the (many) dropped opportunities was how Cass was the one who came up with the "Network" in light of Bruce's death and FabNic wrote her well in the one Battle for the Cowl issue where we got to see the Network in action and then DC had her give away the Batgirl costume in one page and not be seen again (except via flashback) for over year. And they never really did use the "Network" idea in the interim either (except a little in Streets of Gotham perhaps).

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[personal profile] zechs80
2011-06-06 05:08 am UTC (link)
Daniels used it for Battle for the Cowl too. But yeah it's like the entire idea disappeared. And really wouldn't this mean Cass started Batman Inc. since technically this is the same idea?

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[personal profile] jaybee3
2011-06-06 05:13 am UTC (link)
Yeah, it is Batman Inc. except with established Bat allies and non-new/non-obscure characters that Morrison likes.

Like I said a wasted opportunity (and building the "Network" would have been a far more fitting and sensible excuse for Cass to give up Batgirl duties to Steph while Cass uses the Wayne resources to do her own thing off-screen recruiting people and the like - instead the only excuse we get is Bruce told her to do it).

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[personal profile] bluestar86
2011-06-07 01:40 am UTC (link)
Like buying cakes, clothes, and maybe a dog or something. Things she wanted.

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[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-06-06 07:05 am UTC (link)
Different Network no? Since Dick's included Knight, Squire, Hunress, Black Canary and the like, not "people in need of redemption"

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[personal profile] espanolbot
2011-06-06 06:34 am UTC (link)
It annoys me that they didn't collect the majority of Cass' storyline in BatO, and instead just went straight to collecting the entirety of the new Outsiders instead after releasing just two trades of the prior series.

So the Battle of the Cowl trade refers to the Network that Cass and Dick made, but they don't show how it came about.

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[personal profile] kamon
2011-06-06 11:30 am UTC (link)
Out of curiosity, what exactly was the problem between Cass and Dick? I've seen references to them not being the bests of friends, but I've never seen why.

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[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-06-06 02:53 pm UTC (link)
I was going to ask that selfsame question. They always seemed to get on fairly well pre-OYL at least.

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zechs80: (Mayuri)


[personal profile] zechs80
2011-06-06 07:48 pm UTC (link)
Beechen just added the hostility in Titans East and built on it. Tieri just decided to end it.

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[personal profile] eyz
2011-06-06 08:04 pm UTC (link)
It's like the egg and the chicken...nobody truly remembers where it all came from...

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[personal profile] bluestar86
2011-06-07 01:42 am UTC (link)
They were okay with each other for awhile, she thought he was a jerk when he pulled that douchebag move on Barbara. Other than that there were no hostilities between them and they got along fairly well in Gotham Knights.... until Beechen stuck his dick into it anyway.

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