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sigmund_droid ([personal profile] sigmund_droid) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2011-06-09 03:09 pm

Why there were no black people in the future...according to DC

Hope scans_daily has some outrage left! This is the first part of my two part series on Tyroc

Oh boy. Guess who populates Marzal...the Legion of course treats it like a ghetto.

And now the history of Marzal

Jim Shooter pretty much sums up why I was outraged at this

"...I always wanted to have a character who was African-American (Tyroc), and years later, when they did that, they did it in the worst way possible....instead of just incidentally having a character who happens to be black...they made a big fuss about it. He's a racial separatist....I just found it pathetic and appalling."

Until this time ALL the legionaries were drawn with Caucasian features. When black people ARE introduced they are violent separatists that have to be shown the error of their ways by white people.

This is a controversial topic, sorry if I inadvertently offended anyone. Please let me know if I did.

[personal profile] darkknightjrk 2011-06-10 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think racist is quite the right word for this--it's in the same realm of the whole "I Am Curious (Black)!" story: like a group of well-meaning but clueless white guys trying to created black heroes and tell stories about racism and getting so silly that it doesn't work as well.

I should also mention that Tyroc's been used in the Legion recently during Levitz's current run and while he didn't have a lot of lines, he wasn't that bad there.
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[personal profile] btravage 2011-06-10 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
It's not like everyone in the past was this clueless.
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-06-10 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I get "Well meaning, but clueless" out of a good few of these sorts of stories from the era, but may be viewing them differently because I was around at the time they came out (Not necessarily reading them, but they're of my era... ish)

Cliche, but better than the infamous fuss over the 1960's Teen Titans story where they wrote the story to introduce DC's first black superhero Jericho, who would have pre-dated the Black Panther by a couple of months. A literal whitewash.

[personal profile] silicondream 2011-06-11 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. You got the same problem with Dawnstar a few issues after Tyroc's appearance. Awesome that they introduced a Native American character; kind of sad that her costume, personality and native culture were mostly constructed by stapling a dozen "Indian" stereotypes together and adding " SPACE!!!" to them. Dawnstar grew a lot as a character, though, possibly because her creators were genuinely trying to be respectful to her race.

Tyroc actually improved too, when Giffen brought him back in the Five Years Later era of Legion continuity. He started acting like a normal human being, became vice-president of Earth under Jacques Foccart-which was nifty considering they were both black--and eventually president of New Earth.

The 5YL era is still when Legion character diversity peaked, I think. Which is kind of sad considering it was written over twenty years ago.