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Newsarama has the preview of #7, and it starts off in a place extremely different (but just as dangerous) as Gotham City. Where it's not the shadows and the claustraphobia of towering spires, but the hazy light and the bleak emptiness that rule.

How will the Batman fare here?

*Fair warning, not for the faint of heart.






Last page is a punch in the gut for me, don't know about you guys.

About the hero thing:

Sometimes it's saving the planet, sometimes it's saving the big city, sometimes it's saving the girl.

But sometimes it's the small fights, to curb the human chaos from overtaking good people.
To do what you can for your community.

Man-of-Bats does not have the glamour nor the wealth to show for it, but I give the guy as much respect and brass to do the super-hero-costume thing, because it's small victories that make life better every day, and the losses hurt that much more.

I like how this guy is *part* of the community, one of the people. Not hiding in plain sight, but the opposite. Not only do they talk to Man-of-Bats, but they know him and respect him as a full grown adult walking around in costume (with his son, no less, under his wing). They take the man and what he represents seriously.

Date: 2011-06-27 09:12 pm (UTC)
rordulum: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rordulum
Why do Native American characters in comic books always dress like this?

Date: 2011-06-27 09:23 pm (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
Surely not because it's fun. It has to be because it's racially insensitive.

Date: 2011-06-27 09:37 pm (UTC)
star_of_airdrie: (preemie)
From: [personal profile] star_of_airdrie
Racially insensitive or a tribute with the head dress?

And with the pants, that would make my chaps insensitive...

Date: 2011-06-28 02:53 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
Meh. I've actually met a couple of native Americans who occasionally wear the headdress, even though it's not historically accurate for their own tribe. Because it really is fun.

Date: 2011-06-27 09:38 pm (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Presumably they mean either the feathered headress, or the regular people's clothes. The first one is because the costume was from the Fifties, the second one because they don't have much money or something.

Date: 2011-06-27 09:41 pm (UTC)
rordulum: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rordulum
I mean, why does almost any Native American character get depicted wearing the sort of feather war bonnet that was, in reality, only worn by a handful of Plains tribes. And even then, it was usually only for ceremonial occasions.

Now if this guy is Sioux (which seems likely, as it's one of the tribes that most people have heard of) or Cheyenne, then he can at least claim it is part of his heritage. But still, wearing it as part of a vigilante getup is less than respectful of that heritage.

Those feathers aren't just a nifty way of decorating a man's head, they're each supposed to mean something, to signify an act of bravery or honour that this man has been recognised for,

And for the many, many tribes that never wore such things, it's meaningless. Why not give him a mohawk hairstyle or bonnet, given that they were by far the most common amongst Native Americans across the continent.

I just find it incredibly lazy by writers and artists, that they seem to think, 'hmm, this guy is Native American, how can we make people recognise that? Oh, I know, a feathery hat! Like the ones from the cowboy movies.'

Anyway, apart from that, it does seem to be a pretty dark story, and might have some interesting things to say about the way many Native Americans live, now. In poverty and squalor.

Date: 2011-06-27 11:35 pm (UTC)
sigmund_droid: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sigmund_droid
Well said Sherkahn

Date: 2011-06-28 06:56 am (UTC)
arbre_rieur: (Default)
From: [personal profile] arbre_rieur
What s/he said.

Date: 2011-06-27 09:35 pm (UTC)
salinea: (that's the question)
From: [personal profile] salinea
which ones? There are a lot of Native Americans in those pages; most seem to wear stuff like T shirts (including Superman logo-ed T shirts) and jeans and shorts and sweaters.

Date: 2011-06-27 09:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
li'm not quite sure where you are gettng at...

Do you mean like man of bats? or like the residents of the reservation?

if you mean man of bats, its because he is embracing the sterotype in order to turn it into something better. (really there is a lot more to it than that. but that would take me pages to explain, this was the simplest answer)

if you are talking about the residents, well in the poorer reservations, thats how they dress.

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