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proteus_lives ([personal profile] proteus_lives) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2011-06-30 03:08 am

Why they should let Wolverine kill the Scarlet Witch.

Greetings True Believers!

I have a response to Avengers: Children's Crusade #6 which came out today.

You'll want to check out Colonel Green's post if you haven't been following the series.


CG's post.

Well, Wanda. What about these folks?

Scans are from New X-Men and Decimation: Generation M.

Is Wanda going to wiggle her nose and bring them back? Is Iron Lad going to pop into the time-stream and bring them back?

Somehow I doubt it.

Let Logan gut her or put her in a little power-controlling box where she can re-power mutants one by one. Other then that, she never gets to use her powers again.

But that's not going to happen. I know and understand why but I wanted to voice a feeling that came up after reading CC #6 today.
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[personal profile] aaron_bourque 2011-06-30 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
he had to do it all over again

Which is as much crap as it was the first time around. Tony did those things because of other choices he and others had made. He's not the same person, because of the mindwipe, who was in the position to make those choices, perform those actions. If he said he would, then the writer failed to take into account the implications of the mindwipe, also. As I said, short-sighted plots without thinking through the consequences.

A mindwiped Tony could have been a great opportunity to rebuild Iron Man, to rebrand him. Heck, even post-Civil War Tony would have been interesting, a former alcoholic indulging in different self destructive behavior, and either slowly realizing it, or failing to and falling into a downward spiral while claiming to still be doing it for the greater good. Instead, they mindwipe him so that he's not the same guy, but they then make the point that he is the same guy. The mindwipe handwaves his terribleness during Civil War, the "I'd do it all again," shows that not only has Tony not learned anything, and also has no immediate guilt over it, but the writers haven't, either.

[personal profile] paultmd 2011-07-01 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
But if they had tried to use the mindwipe it wouldn't have made him a different guy. It just would have been a guy that didn't really understand why everybody hated him. Realistically, there'd be a number of characters that wouldn't believe his amnesia if he used it as a reason to be absolved of responsibility for his actions. Luke Cage and the New Avengers still would have been set up by him with a ruse leading them to believe Steve Rogers was still alive. People would still have lost their loved ones in the Skrull attack, made more effective by him spreading Starktech throughout the world.

For him to say "Hey, I don't remember that - why would I ever do that?" would be a cheap copout and would be handled that way by any other writer touching on the subject.

For him to say "Hey, I don't remember that, but the fact that I did it means I'd probably do it again - it sounds like something I'd do," shows that he's not trying to make excuses for his actions, especially when the excuse really has nothing to do with the action, coming after the fact. That shows more character and is more honest to the character he'd been established to be over the past few years.