Date: 2011-06-30 08:41 am (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
Interesting....shades of Supreme Power.

Date: 2011-06-30 09:12 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Oh stupid military guys... start treating your experiment like a non-human because he's strong (but still very willing, even eager to serve)? Dumb move.

Date: 2011-06-30 11:23 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I think Lane has a lot of blame there, since it's his flinching which starts the chain of events (based on what I've seen here). The lead of such a project should know better than that.

Date: 2011-06-30 12:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
YOU FLINCHED, GOD DAMN IT, YOU FLINCHED!
That was my thought. Really, they should learn from past fiascoes with dealing with human beings in ways they shouldn't be dealt with.

Date: 2011-07-01 12:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
All this talk of flinching reminds me of when kids use to do that "Don't flinch" thing..in which they basicially say "Don't flinch!", then punch your arm.

Date: 2011-07-01 12:53 am (UTC)
blackruzsa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
Two for flinching!
And suddenly I remember Cass!

Date: 2011-06-30 03:07 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Also, after the flinch, he did nothing to reassure him. This is basic 101 stuff.

How to avoid this whole scenario: Pat him on the back.

Date: 2011-06-30 04:10 pm (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
Someone should organize a Super Soldier 101 class before these idiots get us all killed.

Date: 2011-07-01 02:48 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Yes, mandatory for everyone in the program!

Date: 2011-06-30 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
If Frankenstein has taught us anything, is if you create some nigh-impossible creature and, after he's brought to life, you start to feel the existential horror of what you've just done, KEEP A GODDAMN POKER FACE ON.

Date: 2011-06-30 08:50 pm (UTC)
aeolos_sakya: Aeolos Sakya (Default)
From: [personal profile] aeolos_sakya
Exactly!

Date: 2011-06-30 09:05 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
You know what I'd like? A superbeing who, when people get a little freaked out by the fact that he can kill them with less than a thought, just, fucking, you know... deals with it.

Like maybe someone flinches, and then the superguy goes "huh well... actually, you bein' a little freaked out is pretty understandable, maybe I SHOULDN'T turn into a huge whiny murderdick over it."

Date: 2011-06-30 09:50 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Well, there's the guy from Krypton I suppose.

In this case, when you're a normal person who has risked everything at the behest of this Lane guy, to become what Lane has always wanted, and then he reacts by being horrified of you, I'd be pissed

(And let's not overlook that the process may well have done something unfortunate to your mind too)

Date: 2011-07-01 08:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I recall that some years ago, comic creators wanted the "regular folks" of Metropolis to be freaked out by Superman. Not by Superman himself, but by the fact if Superman is around, some dangerous foe or disaster might be around as well.

Date: 2011-06-30 06:28 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Again, are there no movies in the world of comics?

Date: 2011-07-01 02:49 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Or psychologists who might try and predict how a subject would react.

Date: 2011-06-30 12:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Is that a Daily Planet building coming out of your crotch, or are you just happy to see me?

Date: 2011-06-30 02:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] likeaminx
"We have to show this off" he says as he takes his shirt off.

Date: 2011-06-30 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] keeva
"...General Adam."

Nathaniel?

Date: 2011-06-30 04:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] richardak
That was my first thought.

Date: 2011-06-30 03:21 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
so who is he? just a random soldier? Neil... i don't recall that name (this one seemslike the most pointless Flashpoint one off.. other than to show that the high ranking military guys fail sociology 101)

Date: 2011-06-30 03:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kenn_el
One thing I've learned from reading Elseworlds and What Ifs is that the status quo is always the desired outcome. My guess is that this is the most important book in that the Superman that emerges is the catalyst that fixes the Flashpointverse.

Date: 2011-06-30 04:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Isn't that Saint Barry's job?

Date: 2011-06-30 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Barry's going to fix this, but...from what we've seen, Thomas Wayne wanted to help because he hates the world he lives in, so who's to say that Wonder Woman won't help because she doesn't want to be part of such a massive, life-destroying war, and then Kal-El helps because, despite somewhat understandably hating humanity for what was done to him, wants to have a world where he was never experimented on.

So, sorta like Blackest Night, where the big heroes were Hal and the New Guardians, but characters like Flash, Wonder Woman, Ray Palmer, and the other deputies played their part as well.

Date: 2011-06-30 07:51 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
is that Kal-el?

Date: 2011-06-30 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
No, that's a US soldier--the way I understand it, the government caught Kal-El's spaceship before any lovely mid-western couple could get their mitts on him (Zoom probably had something to do with that), and they've been experimenting on him and trying to figure out how his Kryptonian body works, and, in this story, we see that they're trying to splice some human/Kryptonian stuff to make a super-soldier.

Date: 2011-06-30 06:45 pm (UTC)
an_idol_mind: (Default)
From: [personal profile] an_idol_mind
Didn't Barry wind up frying himself recently in an attempt to become the Flash again?

Oh, I'm sure he didn't really DIE, but the last few pages of Flashpoint #2 were the funniest thing I've seen in comics for a long time.

Date: 2011-06-30 04:02 pm (UTC)
illian: A black and white picture of an iron maiden, the left hand side as you are looking at it open (Default)
From: [personal profile] illian
Wow, that reads like blondie is trying to impress an ex enough to get back with him.

Date: 2011-06-30 04:28 pm (UTC)
an_idol_mind: (Default)
From: [personal profile] an_idol_mind
So...is this supposed to be Flashpoint's Clark Kent? Or is it just some other guy identified as Superman?

Date: 2011-06-30 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
From the looks of it, we haven't seen Kal yet--they've been experimenting on him, extracting DNA from him so that the government can make their men into super-strong super-soldiers.

Date: 2011-06-30 07:52 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
oh really? they mentioned him? yeah i missed that whole part....

Date: 2011-06-30 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I believe one of the Flashpoint teasers had the S-shield and said something like, "They've been experimenting on him for all his life."

Date: 2011-06-30 04:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lucky_gamble
That halo he exhibits in the third row really reminds me of Apollo.

Date: 2011-07-01 04:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
So I guess in the nuDC Apollo will specifically be someone experimented on using Superman's genetics. In other words Apollo will essentially be like the new version of Cir-El.

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