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Firstly, here is some of the gameplay for Batman and Catwoman in the upcoming Batman: Arkham City game. Also featuring Two-Face and a creepy gueststar.
Spoilers, though they do seem to have bleeped out plot relevant information,

Overall I think that it looks neat, the gameplay looks smooth and Gotham has the right kind of look and feel to it. It's going to be interesting to see just how much of Selina's "I'm a helpless damsel!" routine people are going to take at face value, as the clip implies that she was moments away from escaping by herself. Grey Deisle did a good job as her, I feel. I also like their version of Two-Face, they seem to have combined the burnt look of the Dark Knight version with the one from BTAS.

From over Io9 way they have a hint as to what the movie version of Selina will look like,

Anne Hathaway's Catwoman costume will reportedly be a far cry from Michelle Pfeiffer's leathery getup in Batman Returns or Halle Berry's... well, whatever the hell Halle Berry was wearing in Catwoman. According to an inside source, Hathaway's costume more closely resembles what Selina Kyle wears in the comics, which is actually a fairly practical outfit as far as things female comic book characters wear. Here's the report

"Anne's outfit is more tactical, like the comic book, than the previous Batman movies. She will definitely be wearing the goggles and it's going to be less sexy than Halle Berry and Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman costumes. She's going to look more like a robber."

But enough about things that could theoretically speak to the movie's aesthetic or narrative aspects...what about far more important matters?

"But fan boys shouldn't be worried. This costume is going to be form-fitting enough to make Anne look smoking hot. Everything from the looks in her eyes, her head movements, her body–everything is so feline. The role is taking her to new places."

From here,

Interesting, so they seem to have going with this version,

Over this version,

Good to know.

By the way, the above one is on ebay for around $500,000.

For legality, Selina's first appearance in Batman 1, from all the way back in 1940,

Date: 2011-07-01 11:13 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
Not only are they going with the goggles version, but Holly Robinson even gets a mention in the game's continuity:

I'm glad for that. While the characterization of Catwoman here is seriously lacking and reminding me why I never liked the character for the longest time, I'm glad that those elements have been emphasized. Really, in the 90's-ification of DCnU, it's almost surprising that we aren't seeing a full-on return to purplesuit Selina.

As for EVERYTHING regarding the way Two-Face is handled here, well, I can rant (and indeed, I already have ranted) about that at length.

Date: 2011-07-01 11:15 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Two-Face: O RLY YA RLY)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
Oh, and since you used that painting of purple suit Catwoman, are you aware that it's apparently the "Mona Lisa of Comic Art," and is currently on sale on eBay for $423,000.00?

Date: 2011-07-01 11:16 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
... oh, that's right, Dreamwidth doesn't like YouTube embedding:

Date: 2011-07-01 11:23 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
From the voice, I can see why many thought Richard Moll would again be voicing Two-Face. But according to IMDB, it's Troy Baker.

Date: 2011-07-01 11:31 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I think the first time the "Two-Face puts someone on trial" bit was done was during KNIGHTFALL, specifically in DC SHOWCASE. Of course, that story was written as though Two-Face and Batman had never fought each other since "Eye of the Beholder."

I could go on at length about Crazypants Harvey. Personally, I find "Scarred Crimelord with a coin gimmick" as too "Dick Tracy." But maybe that's what Paul Dini and Co. were going for this time around.

As I've said, Two-Face would make more sense to me as "the Punisher with a coin gimmick" than anything else. Paul Dini's first Two-Face story on the animated series was like that. And close to what we got in Nolan's THE DARK KNIGHT, up to "Well, time to kidnap Gordon's family for a climactic showdown."

Date: 2011-07-01 11:37 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
Yeah, I think that invented the trope, although Two-Face was showing being a Judge over Batman in an old Jim Aparo cover (which didn't happen in the story itself), so that may have set the prescient. Really, if you have a villain with a legal background, having a rigged kangaroo court setting seems like an inevitability. In terms of that, I don't think anybody ever has or ever will top Harvey's "trial" of Jim Gordon in No Man's Land by Greg Rucka.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:01 am (UTC)
rordulum: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rordulum
Glad to hear that they're going for this Catwoman costume design. It's by far my favourite of her costumes, for the practicality, and aesthetic appeal.

I can't wait to see what Anne Hathaway looks like in it, for both completely shallow reasons and to get an idea of the creative process for the character.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lonewolf23k
The Modern Goggled costume is definitely the best one we've had in ages. It's stylish and sexy, yet also functional.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:27 am (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
I'm glad to see the love for this Catwoman costume. I've always loved it, but lately, I've noticed how there's fanatical contingent of Cat-fans who loathe it and adhere to their own personal fanon rather than even acknowledge Goggle!Suit Selina's existence. But then, I'm a GL fan who got into Hal Jordan during the 90's, so I suppose I understand completely.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:32 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
Ideally, he should be a crimelord with intimate knowledge of law enforcement from years as a lawyer and District Attorney gimmick (and a coin that he needs to make every moral decision he makes).

Date: 2011-07-02 12:33 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
I don't think anybody ever has or ever will top Harvey's "trial" of Jim Gordon in No Man's Land by Greg Rucka.

Yeah, that was awesome, not because it was a trial, but because Two-Face was prosecuting and Harvey was defending. Harvey was never a judge, anyway.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:41 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (The Boys)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
So from what I've seen, we're not getting a real boss fight with Two-Face? That's very disappointing. The game looks awesome and of course I will buy it, but still, a good genuine boss fight wouldn't hurt.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:46 am (UTC)
midnightvoyager: Just Middy (Default)
From: [personal profile] midnightvoyager
The censoring reminds me of Address Unknown from Max Payne. Since I did not expect it, it kinda made me feel temporarily insane.

.mirrorS arE morE fuN thaN televisioN

Date: 2011-07-02 01:10 am (UTC)
nickfury90: movie-verse Spidey (Default)
From: [personal profile] nickfury90
The censored dialog is "protocol 13", Crazy Jane. Don't know why they censored it, doesn't really mean anything.

Anyway, weak script aside, that was fantastic, as was the last game, and surely this one will be as well. I love just how badass you feel when you're in combat, swiftly moving across the battlefield and brutally taking down thugs. Good stuff.

Also hey, Jack Ryder!

Also-also, Cooke Goggles Catwoman >>>>>>>>>>>> purple tacky-looking Catwoman

Date: 2011-07-02 01:23 am (UTC)
auggie18: (Sad Icon)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
Well, now I'm crying in front of my roommate. Thanks for that.

Date: 2011-07-02 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Ah, Grey Delisle. Excellent voice-actress.

That first thug, I recognize his voice. Think he voices Wolverine somewhere actually... But not sure.

Date: 2011-07-02 02:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
I assume, from the io9 description, that they're going for a more "tactical" look--somewhere between the X-Men:First Class movie outfits and Bale-Bruce's outfit before he Batmanized it.

Date: 2011-07-02 03:02 am (UTC)
ravenous_raven: Silhouette of Fables' Medea in cat form, "Witch Cat" in a corner (Witch Cat)
From: [personal profile] ravenous_raven
Apparently Hathaway's doing at least a little bit of fighting. She apparently was filming a scene where she shoves a gun in a stuntman's face and ended up giving the poor guy a black eye. She really felt bad about it, apologized, and gave him a gag gift.

Forgot the source on that though.

Date: 2011-07-02 03:05 am (UTC)
golden_orange: trust me, i'm wearing a vegetable. (Default)
From: [personal profile] golden_orange
That would indeed be lame -- although this is fairly early in the game, though, and IIRC there's some kind of backstory between Catwoman and Two-Face that's presumably developed and revealed over the course of the game. I get the feeling this isn't the last we see of him.

Date: 2011-07-02 05:16 am (UTC)
midnightvoyager: Just Middy (Default)
From: [personal profile] midnightvoyager
I really hear Jeanette Voerman in her half-flirting at Harvey.

This is not a bad thing.

Date: 2011-07-02 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Yeah, the 90s series as I recall. He also played the lead character in Bulletstorm recently.

Date: 2011-07-02 07:29 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Batman & Robin)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
I'm a bit disappointed that Two-Face appears to be a minor antagonist. As for his look, I'd like it a bit more if it didn't look like his sleeve was melted onto him. Also the dialogue/script with Catwoman is a bit cheesy.

On a related note, I just finished the first game and I enjoyed it. I found the last boss fight though to be both frustrating and anticlimactic at the same time.

Date: 2011-07-02 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I hear Azula.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:18 pm (UTC)
indy2012: (Default)
From: [personal profile] indy2012
I don't think he'll be a minor antagonist in the least. If you recall, Ivy in Arkham Asylum was taken down with relative ease in a few cut scenes early on in the game, with Bats gloating, "You've been in the dark for too long, Ivy". Then she ended up being one of the better boss battles in the game. I think Harv will come back with a vengeance before all is said and done. Dini has too much respect for the character.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:25 pm (UTC)
indy2012: (Default)
From: [personal profile] indy2012
I never understood the appeal of the purple costume. It had a big purple tail for goodness sakes. Whoever thought that a big purple cat was a good idea.... I don't know.

I think a lot of animosity for the goggled-version of Selina came from Brubaker solidifying her "lady of the evening" roots, with many fans not being able to reconcile their favorite character with that particular image. I personally found the Brubaker version so much more enduring than any prior incarnation.

Never liked anything like the Cat-Tails fanfiction either.

Date: 2011-07-02 12:32 pm (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Batman & Robin)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Yeah, that makes sense. We can only hope.

Date: 2011-07-02 02:20 pm (UTC)
kenwyn89: Luke Skywalker (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenwyn89
I love Selina as a character- she's almost Irene Adler to Batman, which is why I dislike the retcon that made her a lady of the evening as it was described above. I grew up watching Anne Hathaway in the Princess diaries- so this is a slightly weird feeling. But the only thing that would make me happier is if they brought in a robin to the franchise (but they won'

Date: 2011-07-02 04:17 pm (UTC)
kenwyn89: Luke Skywalker (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenwyn89
Wow, I really respect your argument. I'm in complete agreement in terms of the journey, and the payout of a much more emotionally rich character- but my main query the necessity of her having been a prostitute as a device. I don't think it was 100% needed to show the desperation of her situation, as there are other ways. Although she's a success story (more or less) in comics (in that she's not in risk of being a damsel or fridged so much), being run over with more suffering and abuse feels like another dampener. I think the story was told well, though, and I understand it is all about preference really.

For a true life is weirder than fiction moment- I had a great (mighta been great great) aunt who ran away to become a Nun, who was an Irish Catholic living in india.

Date: 2011-07-02 05:01 pm (UTC)
kenwyn89: Luke Skywalker (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenwyn89
Yup. Selina's also Golden-Age, so she's one of those people go 'you can't do that to her she's been around forever-' but that's kind of against the spirit of creating characters in the first place and you can't please everyone.

I found it a interesting read, no worries :)

Date: 2011-07-03 12:12 am (UTC)
red_menace: (peejeat)
From: [personal profile] red_menace
That's probably the best explanation of Selina as a character I've ever read. Kudos.

Date: 2011-07-03 03:55 am (UTC)
kate_fatale: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kate_fatale
Wow. Great synopsis and analysis. Her polar opposition to Bruce (in terms of personal background) IS immensely important, and I do hope there's at least an atmospheric element of that in the film.

Date: 2011-07-04 12:26 pm (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Very, very nice actually! I'd even take a whole non-Batman Catwoman game like that! :D

I just have a problem how Catwoman's not actually using her modern costume as well as in the comics.
I mean, shouldn't the zipper be, ya know, zipped? Oh and the googles aren't masking her face put that way... .:/ Oh well...


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