Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 11:01 am (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
"CHANGE PLACES!"

Selina Kyle, Oracle. I look forward to seeing Harvey Dent, head of the League of Assassins; Lucius Fox, the Riddler, and Bane, Director of the Suicide Squad.

Jeez.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] keeva
Selina as Oracle doesn't even make any sense.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 11:18 am (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
Well, neither does this issue's big twist, but WACKY HIJINKS! UH? UH?

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] keeva
What is the big twist?

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 11:46 am (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
SPOILERS







It turns out, as we suspected, that Joker is in fact Martha Wayne, gone-crazy-with-maternal-grief or some such.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 03:47 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
I was actually hoping to see that page scanned here, as I think she rocks the Ledger!Joker look damn well. I'd love to see Martha!Joker as cosplay now.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 03:48 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
And that twist makes sense to me, actually. If the trauma of Bruce's death caused Thomas to become Batman, then it also makes about as much sense for Martha to snap and become the Joker.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 04:33 pm (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
Fair point. I think my goat has more been got by Cat-Oracle than it has by Martha-Joker. It's not the MOST logical reaction to a traumatising attack, but then this is a world in which the UK is populated by warrior-women in revealing outfits and slave eunuchs.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 06:25 pm (UTC)
fungo_squiggly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] fungo_squiggly
[i]but then this is a world in which the UK is populated by warrior-women in revealing outfits and slave eunuchs.[/i]

You mean it isn't that way in real life!? D:

Well, there go my vacation plans. Hope I can get a refund for these first-class round trip tickets. ):

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-09 01:28 am (UTC)
schala_kid: Stephanie Brown as Batgirl (Default)
From: [personal profile] schala_kid
So Bruce dies and his father becomes heroic and his mother turns into a villain.

Yeah...

Oh well at least I hope Martha looks cool with the clown make up on (plus Batman/Joker fans would love this).

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-09 02:51 am (UTC)
an_idol_mind: (Default)
From: [personal profile] an_idol_mind
While he's not as over the bend as Martha, Thomas Wayne isn't exactly heroic.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-09 07:35 am (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
While we haven't seen much of her clearly, it now very much makes we want to see Ledger!Joker cosplay by women. I'm sick and tired of Ledger!Joker cosplay dominating the character's followers, but even still, Martha!Joker is a variation I'd love to see. I think she rocks the outfit even better than Ledger.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 12:38 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
On the contrary, I think it brings a very funny new dynamic to the Joker/Batman relationship, and it answers the question of why Thomas never killed the Joker.

I think, given I've heard some divorces are worse than world wars, it brings something fascinating to the concepts that we'd never get outside of Flashpoint, and as such, I'm glad Azzarello did it.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 04:24 pm (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
It doesn't make sense that she would have the computer skills.

But transitioning from thief to information font isn't that much of a stretch.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 08:01 pm (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
Yeah, but . . . she would've had to start in childhood . . . during a time she was dirt poor or possibly living in a Juvenile center . . . unless Eobard specifically went into her timeline to inspire her to pursue a life of computer hacking, it's kind of a stretch.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 08:05 pm (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
"Hey kid, computers are way cool and thievery is for squares"

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 08:09 pm (UTC)
salinea: (this way)
From: [personal profile] salinea
like you can't use computers to steal stuff.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 10:35 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
She went to college for library sciences (no doubt they've removed her Doctorate), so my guess would be pretty darn good.

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-09 03:29 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Don't forget the Harvard law degree she grabbed (via correspondence course, apparently) during Bruce Wayne: Murderer?

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-11 09:48 am (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
True.
Though "Elseworld" and all that aside, so they can twist random character into totally different roles, I was expecting any of the Birds of Prey... or even a Teen Titan...

Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter:

Date: 2011-07-08 11:45 am (UTC)
thanekos: Kouhei " Principal Garren " Hayami, the Libra Zodiarts, is bugged. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
Judge Harvey Dent here, actually.

So probably Dr. Craane, then.

Date: 2011-07-08 07:51 pm (UTC)
turtlefu: (Default)
From: [personal profile] turtlefu
You know what I don't like about this?

It's the implication that Oracle is THE CHAIR. That anyone in THE CHAIR can be Oracle, logic or personal history be damned.

Date: 2011-07-08 08:04 pm (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
Hmm. Maybe DC thinks the chair is Oracle's superhero costume? Like, they keep replacing the people in the suits, and the wheelchair is Oracle's suit . . .

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; I think some braincells just up and died on me.

Date: 2011-07-08 10:39 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
Well, look at the reaction to giving Barbara mobility, even aside from ever donning the Batgirl costume, and you'd easily get the impression.

"Batman created by Bob Kane"

Date: 2011-07-09 03:29 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
*cough*BillFinger*cough*

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