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Old Guys Fighting Crime #2

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	Quoth the Robot Hatter: misterbug 2011-07-08 11:01 am UTC (link)
	"CHANGE PLACES!" Selina Kyle, Oracle. I look forward to seeing Harvey Dent, head of the League of Assassins; Lucius Fox, the Riddler, and Bane, Director of the Suicide Squad. Jeez. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 23 comments) (Show 23 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: keeva 2011-07-08 11:08 am UTC (link)
	Selina as Oracle doesn't even make any sense. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 20 comments) (Show 20 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: misterbug 2011-07-08 11:18 am UTC (link)
	Well, neither does this issue's big twist, but WACKY HIJINKS! UH? UH? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 10 comments) (Show 10 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: keeva 2011-07-08 11:42 am UTC (link)
	What is the big twist? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 8 comments) (Show 8 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: misterbug 2011-07-08 11:46 am UTC (link)
	SPOILERS It turns out, as we suspected, that Joker is in fact Martha Wayne, gone-crazy-with-maternal-grief or some such. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 7 comments) (Show 7 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: thehefner 2011-07-08 03:47 pm UTC (link)
	I was actually hoping to see that page scanned here, as I think she rocks the Ledger!Joker look damn well. I'd love to see Martha!Joker as cosplay now. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: thehefner 2011-07-08 03:48 pm UTC (link)
	And that twist makes sense to me, actually. If the trauma of Bruce's death caused Thomas to become Batman, then it also makes about as much sense for Martha to snap and become the Joker. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: misterbug 2011-07-08 04:33 pm UTC (link)
	Fair point. I think my goat has more been got by Cat-Oracle than it has by Martha-Joker. It's not the MOST logical reaction to a traumatising attack, but then this is a world in which the UK is populated by warrior-women in revealing outfits and slave eunuchs. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: fungo_squiggly 2011-07-08 06:25 pm UTC (link)
	[i]but then this is a world in which the UK is populated by warrior-women in revealing outfits and slave eunuchs.[/i] You mean it isn't that way in real life!? D: Well, there go my vacation plans. Hope I can get a refund for these first-class round trip tickets. ): (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: schala_kid 2011-07-09 01:28 am UTC (link)
	So Bruce dies and his father becomes heroic and his mother turns into a villain. Yeah... Oh well at least I hope Martha looks cool with the clown make up on (plus Batman/Joker fans would love this). (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: an_idol_mind 2011-07-09 02:51 am UTC (link)
	While he's not as over the bend as Martha, Thomas Wayne isn't exactly heroic. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: thehefner 2011-07-09 07:35 am UTC (link)
	While we haven't seen much of her clearly, it now very much makes we want to see Ledger!Joker cosplay by women. I'm sick and tired of Ledger!Joker cosplay dominating the character's followers, but even still, Martha!Joker is a variation I'd love to see. I think she rocks the outfit even better than Ledger. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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mrstatham
2011-07-08 12:38 pm UTC (link)

On the contrary, I think it brings a very funny new dynamic to the Joker/Batman relationship, and it answers the question of why Thomas never killed the Joker.

I think, given I've heard some divorces are worse than world wars, it brings something fascinating to the concepts that we'd never get outside of Flashpoint, and as such, I'm glad Azzarello did it.

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	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: aaron_bourque 2011-07-08 04:24 pm UTC (link)
	It doesn't make sense that she would have the computer skills. But transitioning from thief to information font isn't that much of a stretch. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 7 comments) (Show 7 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: superboyprime 2011-07-08 07:31 pm UTC (link)
	Computer skills can be learned. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 6 comments) (Show 6 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: aaron_bourque 2011-07-08 08:01 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, but . . . she would've had to start in childhood . . . during a time she was dirt poor or possibly living in a Juvenile center . . . unless Eobard specifically went into her timeline to inspire her to pursue a life of computer hacking, it's kind of a stretch. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 5 comments) (Show 5 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: biod 2011-07-08 08:05 pm UTC (link)
	"Hey kid, computers are way cool and thievery is for squares" (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: salinea 2011-07-08 08:09 pm UTC (link)
	like you can't use computers to steal stuff. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: superboyprime 2011-07-08 10:09 pm UTC (link)
	Why would you say that? Computer skills can be learned in adulthood. How good were Barbara Gordon's compuer skills before she lost the use of her legs? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: kenn_el 2011-07-08 10:35 pm UTC (link)
	She went to college for library sciences (no doubt they've removed her Doctorate), so my guess would be pretty darn good. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: glprime 2011-07-09 03:29 am UTC (link)
	Don't forget the Harvard law degree she grabbed (via correspondence course, apparently) during Bruce Wayne: Murderer? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: eyz 2011-07-11 09:48 am UTC (link)
	True. Though "Elseworld" and all that aside, so they can twist random character into totally different roles, I was expecting any of the Birds of Prey... or even a Teen Titan... (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	Re: Quoth the Robot Hatter: thanekos 2011-07-08 11:45 am UTC (link)
	Judge Harvey Dent here, actually. So probably Dr. Craane, then. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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superboyprime
2011-07-08 07:30 pm UTC (link)

I dont't know, there's only so many ways a quadrapalegic can be contribute in a major way to crimefighting. So all you really have to swallow is that she's a crimefighter in this world, which isn't a large pill at all considering a lot of her past behavior in the regular universe and considering it's implied the Joker's responsible for her condition. Becoming a crimefighter after an experience of great personal tragedy is a staple of the Bat-world.

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	no subject turtlefu 2011-07-08 07:51 pm UTC (link)
	You know what I don't like about this? It's the implication that Oracle is THE CHAIR. That anyone in THE CHAIR can be Oracle, logic or personal history be damned. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject aaron_bourque 2011-07-08 08:04 pm UTC (link)
	Hmm. Maybe DC thinks the chair is Oracle's superhero costume? Like, they keep replacing the people in the suits, and the wheelchair is Oracle's suit . . . Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; I think some braincells just up and died on me. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject kenn_el 2011-07-08 10:39 pm UTC (link)
	Well, look at the reaction to giving Barbara mobility, even aside from ever donning the Batgirl costume, and you'd easily get the impression. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	"Batman created by Bob Kane" glprime 2011-07-09 03:29 am UTC (link)
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