icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)icon_uk ([personal profile] icon_uk) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily,
@ 2011-07-14 02:43 pm UTC
Entry tags:char: superboy/kon-el/conner kent, creator: art baltazar, creator: franco, creator: geoff johns, creator: greg weisman, creator: mike mckone, title: teen titans, title: young justice
The treatment of Superboy by Superman has been the cause of some disquiet amongst fans.

So leave it to the fans to come up with a creative alternative;

Since Superman won't interact with Suprboy perhaps another member of the JLA should, and who SHOULD have a Titan representative, but doesn't?




Click on the link to go to the deviantart page of xoverlover who produced this.

Has to be better than how Diana treated Kon in Geoff John's Teen Titans;




And for those wondering about the current situation as regards the YJ cartoon and it's absence from our screens, this from Greg Weisman's own website;
Next topic: YOUNG JUSTICE UPDATE.
We have aired episodes 101-109 (i.e. Season One, episodes 1-9).
(Yes, episode 110 accidentally was posted on Cartoon Network's website, but I'm going to pretend that never happened.)
Episodes 110-115 are in the can, i.e. they are completed and ready to air.
Episode 116 awaits only the final on-line, i.e. the final review of the episode. This has been delayed ONLY because I've been out sick this week.
Episode 117 will have it's sound mix on Friday. (I hope to be back at work by then.)
Episode 118 has been edited and work progresses on scoring and sound effects.
Episode 119 is ready to begin post-production.
Episodes 120-123 are being animated in Korea.
Episodes 124-126 are in layout in Korea, while we finish the final color models here in the States.
Episodes 201-202 (i.e. Season Two, Episodes one and two) - Are fully recorded and are in storyboard. (201 was written by me. 202 by Nicole Dubuc.)
Episode 203, written by Kevin Hopps, is almost fully recorded. We have one actor left to pick up, who has been out of town. It is also in storyboard.
Episode 204, written by me, will record this week. It is also in storyboard.
Episode 205 - Brandon Vietti, has turned in his draft of the script. I have to read and edit it.
Episode 206 - The outline, written by Peter David and edited by me, went out Monday for notes, which are due tomorrow.
Episode 207 - Kevin Hopps turned in his outline, which I need to read and edit.
Episode 208 - I'm writing this one. I'll start the outline, after I've edited the outline to 207.
Episode 209 - Jon Weisman turned in his outline, which I need to read and edit.
Episode 210 - Kevin Hopps is working on his outline.
We do NOT yet have a pick-up beyond episode 210, but our bosses have told us to start blocking out episodes 211-220 in anticipation of one.
Episode 211 - We've broken this story. I still need to find time to write up the Beat Outline, though I have it all on index cards.
Episode 212 - We've got the basics of this one down, but we (i.e. myself, Brandon and Kevin) still need to finish breaking the story.
Episodes 213-220 - We've got a very clear sense of the arc and what things need to happen, but we haven't started on these yet.
NEXT TOPIC: DEBUNKING YJ RUMORS

False Rumor #1: YJ IS A GREG WEISMAN PRODUCTION
Everywhere on the Internet, all I see is that YJ is Greg Weisman's show. That's just blatantly false. This is a VIETTI/WEISMAN production. Just as Spectacular Spider-Man was a COOK/WEISMAN production and Gargoyles was a PAUR/WEISMAN production. I am not, nor have I ever been, a one-man show on ANY project I've EVER worked on. EVER. And in particular, on YJ, it's extremely unfair to Brandon to leave him out of consideration. Brandon is heavily involved in every aspect of production, INCLUDING SERIES DEVELOPMENT AND STORY. He's been right there with myself and Kevin Hopps breaking every single episode. It's been a team effort from day one. Many of the series' best ideas came/come from Brandon. And this is aside from the fact, that of course, Brandon can write - but I cannot draw, which arguably makes him MORE important to the production than I. I am exceedingly proud of this series and my own work on it - though certain very vocal fans seem to think I shouldn't be - but that doesn't change the fact that Brandon and I are a team.

False Rumor #2: YJ WAS RUSHED INTO PRODUCTION
Another blatant misconception. Look, Brandon and I are both perfectionists. Neither of us would deny that we'd LOVE to have more time on each and every episode. But that's not the same as being rushed. Let's make a comparison: on Spectacular Spider-Man, I basically had one week to develop both the series and the entire first season. Then Vic Cook came aboard, and we raced to get into production in less than two months. Brandon and I had seven months to develop the series, break the first season (which granted had twice as many episodes as the first season of Spidey) and head into production. The show isn't and never has been rushed. That's not to say the schedule isn't tight. But we haven't aired a single episode that wasn't ready to air. And we won't.

False Rumor #3: YJ ISN'T AIRING NOW BECAUSE WE'RE REWORKING EPISODES BASED ON INTERNET CRITICISM
This is my favorite. I love it the most because the first person I saw who posted this rumor also said that I'd deny it. So here I am denying it, which of course serves to PROVE that he or she was correct, see? Let's be clear: for better or worse, this series is COMPLETELY unaffected by internet criticism BECAUSE of schedule. Everything of any significance was set and DONE before even the pilot movie aired last November, so we couldn't address fan concerns even if we wanted to. And, honestly, we don't want to. We don't in part because there is way less consensus than some people seem to think. For example, for every post I see expressing hatred for "Hello, Megan!", I see a post that likes it. And personally, I like it. Brandon likes it. So why would we change it, even if we could? In fact, even Season Two is moving forward more or less disregarding "fan" criticism. Brandon and I always had very clear ideas for what we wanted to do in Season Two (and even Season Three, should we get one) and those ideas haven't changed. As with every series I've co-helmed, all we can ever do is write and produce to OUR OWN passions - and then just cross our fingers and hope enough people share our passions to make it a success. Anything else is doomed to failure, because if we're not passionate about it, it'll show in the work, and then no one will like it. And just to make it clear: WE LIKE OUR SHOW!! Doesn't mean you have to - but don't try to tell me I don't.

So why aren't we airing new episodes now? That's a fair question that I don't have an answer for. After all, we have six unaired episodes in the can, with four more on the verge of completion. It's a Cartoon Network decision. Some fans have argued that they shouldn't have started airing ANY episodes until ALL episodes were in the can. But that too is a decision above my pay grade.
My best guess - and that's all it is - is that CN will air new episodes - starting with 110 ("Targets") - in September. The good news is that the later they wait, the more weeks they can go uninterrupted by reruns. I do know that Season Two (i.e. "Young Justice: Invasion") will begin airing as part of DC NATION in March of 2012. And by then ALL of Season One will have aired. So do the math.
People have asked me if I'm bummed about losing momentum by this delay. But the thing is we've ALREADY lost all momentum. So as long as they PROMOTE us whenever they finally do start airing us again, then pragmatically I'm good. Yes, I'll admit to a certain level of frustration in that I want our stuff to get out there, but if CN has a plan to make the most of the episodes, then more power to them.

and in closing, proof that some Robin related memes are inevitable in ANY media...



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flidgetjerome: Hark, a Vagrant #328 (BATMAN!!!)


[personal profile] flidgetjerome
2011-07-14 02:06 pm UTC (link)
. . . That is actually a pretty great costume for Kon.

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biod: Cute Galactus (Cute Galactus)


[personal profile] biod
2011-07-14 02:13 pm UTC (link)
But what's the secret of his power?
It's his kickass costume.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-07-14 03:16 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, not getting the reference.

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terrykun: (aqualad year one clap)


[personal profile] terrykun
2011-07-14 03:19 pm UTC (link)
I thought he learned his secrets from Dio.

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airawyn: (Arrow: Ollie doing archery)


[personal profile] airawyn
2011-07-14 10:59 pm UTC (link)
That's telekinesis, baby.

("Wonder Boy" is totally on my Tim/Kon playlist.)

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pyrotwilight: (Tommie chris giarrusso)


[personal profile] pyrotwilight
2011-07-14 02:24 pm UTC (link)
Wonderboy whoo! Admittedly I want Bobby Barnes to show up as Wonder Lad or Warrior (since "boy" wouldn't be a good term to use historically).

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long_silence: (icon 1, Wiccan)


[personal profile] long_silence
2011-07-14 02:40 pm UTC (link)
Oh goody. Hello Megan isn't going away.

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thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (pic#378054)


[personal profile] thatnickguy
2011-07-14 03:13 pm UTC (link)
I just don't understand the hate for that ONE LINE. It's not something that overpowers the whole show and only tends to come up maybe once every show. There have been much, much, MUCH more annoying catchphrases in history.

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mullon: (Starfire)


[personal profile] mullon
2011-07-14 03:59 pm UTC (link)
What?!

*Goes back and reads*

Fuck!

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q99: (pic#378463)


[personal profile] q99
2011-07-14 02:43 pm UTC (link)
I would totally love Wonder Woman having a Wonder Boy sidekick like that.

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greenmask: (lollerskates?)


[personal profile] greenmask
2011-07-14 05:53 pm UTC (link)
It would be aces!

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red_menace: BFF? (friend, hello, normal)


[personal profile] red_menace
2011-07-14 02:54 pm UTC (link)
I very much approve of that costume. And the whole concept really.

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[personal profile] darkknightjrk
2011-07-14 05:00 pm UTC (link)
Which I find rather odd, because when Cassie was wearing that exact costume, I seem to remember the fans lost their shit.

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crinos: (pic#371609)


[personal profile] crinos
2011-07-14 03:08 pm UTC (link)
But what are the secrets of his powers?

Also, can he now kill a yak from 200 yards away with MIND BULLETS?

(Oh come one, like no one else was thinking of it?)

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biod: Cute Galactus (Cute Galactus)


[personal profile] biod
2011-07-14 03:10 pm UTC (link)
Beat you to it, mate.

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okkult3000: (engineer)


[personal profile] okkult3000
2011-07-14 03:57 pm UTC (link)
If Wonder Woman had a son/male-clone-thingy, he would never be able to visit his family's homeland. She fights for liberty and justice all over the world, but turns a blind eye to human rights abuses in her own country. Shameful.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-07-14 04:04 pm UTC (link)
Umm... men have been able to set foot on Themiscryia without any loss of Amazon immortality since the Perez reboot.

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mullon: (Starfire)


[personal profile] mullon
2011-07-14 04:00 pm UTC (link)
I thought this was cancelled.

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sianmink: (smk)


[personal profile] sianmink
2011-07-14 10:54 pm UTC (link)
CN's been horrible about keeping a schedule, or supporting the shows that they didn't produce themselves.

Don't get me started on the terrible unfair things they did to Sym-bionic Titan.

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cypherfdp: (elctricity, electric, lightning, mouse, pikachu, pokemon, rat, thief, thunder)


[personal profile] cypherfdp
2011-07-14 04:56 pm UTC (link)
I'm actually kind of wondering how the character would work in comic canon.

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[personal profile] darkknightjrk
2011-07-14 05:10 pm UTC (link)
I'm sure a lot of folks here hate it, but I always loved that whole issue of Teen Titans, especially the scene with Conner being thrown around by Wonder Woman. The "Heyyyyyy" never fails to make me laugh. XD

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sunaya: Sunshine (Sunshine)


[personal profile] sunaya
2011-07-15 02:49 am UTC (link)
Oh you're not alone, I like the issue too. Having all of the Teen Titans AND the freaking Justice League be all *guilty look* "Sorry, Nightwing..." at the end is just wonderful.

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joasakura: (gladiator movies)


[personal profile] joasakura
2011-07-14 05:50 pm UTC (link)
GWAH! SO. CUTE.

and I'm glad YJ is returning. It's one of the few things on TV I was looking forward to.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-07-14 10:51 pm UTC (link)
Speaking of cute, just wait until you see something I'm posting shortly, I think you'll like it.

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glprime: (pic#365544)


[personal profile] glprime
2011-07-14 07:21 pm UTC (link)
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

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bluefall: (amazon queen)


[personal profile] bluefall
2011-07-14 08:34 pm UTC (link)
Okay, I am very down on the oft-suggested idea of the Wondy franchise stealing supervillains from other franchises in order to prop itself up. But you know what, if Diana wants to gank Kon for the Wonder Family? That is so okay with me, I can't even say.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)


[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-07-14 10:55 pm UTC (link)
An exchange scheme of some sort (it worked for Darkseid and Highfather)... Dick was trained by Bruce and got "Nightwing" from Clark. Kara was linked to Clark and trained by Diana... Kon being a "Wonder" seems only fair!

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whitesycamore: (pic#913785)


[personal profile] whitesycamore
2011-07-14 10:22 pm UTC (link)
You can be a great wonder boy some day, wonder boy!

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[personal profile] jlbarnett
2011-07-15 12:03 am UTC (link)
funny thing is I think if Clark kept showing up in Kon's book fans would consider him butting in. He was never a sidekick like Tim or Cassie after all.

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liara_shadowsong: (liara)


[personal profile] liara_shadowsong
2011-07-15 05:11 am UTC (link)
I love the Wonderboy idea so much that I just *had* to go to DA so I could tell the artist how wonderful it was, and fave it! Also: YJ appears to be green-lighted for a second season, then. YAY! \o/

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kenwyn89: Luke Skywalker (bird, Luke)


[personal profile] kenwyn89
2011-07-15 01:23 pm UTC (link)
Before even half of the first season has aired, sigh. So good, though.

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schala_kid: My other OTP (TimKon)


[personal profile] schala_kid
2011-07-15 07:18 pm UTC (link)
OMG that is so wonderful (no pun intended), I always wanted Diana to have a boy sidekick and I just love the idea of a teenage boy inspired by a female hero.

See this DC! Make it happen! Have a Wonder Boy even if it's not Kon.

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marco: (napple tale)


[personal profile] marco
2011-07-16 06:34 am UTC (link)
That is too cute. I'm not so keen on the Wonder!male thing, but that just works. Too well.

And I'm glad that YJ sounds like it's still going well as far as production goes. Even though I'm still looking forward to seeing WG, I've been anxious about it.

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