New Red Robin costume origin? (and believe it or not, a random Sailor Moon image)

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Now, I've pondered this before, and something about Red Robin's new costume was familiar, but I couldn't place it...




Now at first I thought Marvel's Falcon, and then I thought about Seeker of the Spaceknights, but it was neither of those, THEN, being the compulsive Robin-phile that I am, I remembered THIS, a Robin redesign that George Perez did ten years ago when someone asked him how he'd redesign Robin's outfit, and I think he felt this was the last one he was going to do for a while....



Look familiar? Yes, I thought it might...

My usual ten minute paint.net job with it, led me to this rough and ready colourisation (And I cheerfully admit that I SUCK at shading and off humble apologies to Mr Perez for this chromatic hack job...)



What do you think? Pure coincidence, or maybe slightly inspired by this? (Admittedly the colours I've used are chosen to match the new Red Robin outfit, rather than what Mr Perez might have been imagining, which would I hope have included SOME green which I still think should be a requirement for a Robin outfit)

Oh, and simply because I've always loved this image and never really thought about posting it before and don't think I'll have any ACTUAL suitable post for it, a little Sailor Moon art which was an insert in Manga 14.


 

Comments

[whitesycamore]

I've never seen anything really wrong with the Red Robin redesign, except that it doesn't really fit Tim's character. Looks like the kind of thing that'd be worn by someone more flamboyant and metahuman, to me.

Also, I dislike him co-opting red, which is Jason (and Kate's) colour. Red has a flashy, special, ooh-look-at-me quality to it.* If everyone is just going to jump on the red bandwagon that CHEAPENS IT.

*Except at night-time I guess, when red actually appears much dimmer than blue, but wth we don't read comics in the dark so my point still stands.

[icon_uk]

Given he's a Robin, I don't think having a red costume is really co-opting anything, it's more of a requirement

[marco]

I think since Dick was blue (Nightwing) and Jason got red (Red Hood), with Tim taking some red now too (and heck, nu!Dick is too now, red is the new black?), it's less of a Robin thing and more characteristic/representation.

Being red Robin, Red is obvious. But it's even pointed that he's wearing the 'bad Robin's outfit'. So it doesn't feel like it's really his color (or costume).

I think I see whitesycamore's point, but even if I don't, I do agree. But he does wear the costume and the color quite well~.

[icon_uk]

I have a bigger issue (to the extent of me having any actual issues about such things, I mean it's not like I'm going to lose sleep either way) with Dick wearing red again. The blue (and robins egg blue at that) was his signature colour, the red just looks... vaguely wrong on him.

[marco]

I agree entirely. The blue is so perfect for him. Red just doesn't match him. Not like that. (But I guess they're going for him symbolism or some nonsense with it, so meh.)

[darkblade]

Well if we go by it saying Dick is blue and Jason is red then shouldn't Tim have a Green post Robin costume?

[marco]

Well, I was thinking that actually. It can even be minimal (or mostly) green. After all, both Dick and Jason's outfits aren't bursting with their colors.
(...Where did the Robins' colors come from anyway?)

[darkblade]

Dick's Robin costume was based on what he wore at the Circus (Secret Identity what's that?) and the others wore similar costumes because that's just what Robin wears.

[marco]

Oh, no, I mean the Dick=Blue, Jason=Red, Tim=Green, Damian=Yellow. x'D
(I mean, if we go in Robin color order starting with or after Jason, it kind of makes sense, especially since Steph being purple goes with her Spoiler and Bat Girl costumes, but where/when did the color coding originate I mean.)

[icon_uk]

Given the number of circus posters over the years which have gone so far as announce "The Flying Graysons, with Dick Grayson, the Boy Wonder of the Flying Trapeze" and the like, it's amazing he ever bothered with a mask.