SDCC: On the return of Ryan Choi, the existance of Cass Cain, And More!

[espanolbot]

"On diversity in the DCnÜ: Wallace stated that it was very important to him to reflect the real world in his book, Mister Terrific, and that his run will feature a sporting cast with black, hispanic, asian and, he joked, "even white" characters because "I had to stick them in there." Going back to a serious note, he stated that he wants the world of Mister Terrific to reflect the real world. Jim Lee added that there was a "very small" asian character in the Justice League whose name rhymes with "blatom," all but saying that the Atom in the new DC Universe is Ryan Choi rather than Ray Palmer."

Yay! The return of Ryan I approve of.

"On female characters in the Justice League line: A female fan in a Batgirl costume, with daughter dressed as Spoiler, was very upset by what she said was a lack of female characters being featured centrally on the covers in the Justice League line of books. The panelists said they are trying very hard to take diversity seriously in terms of both gender and race. The fan said no such characters were featured prominently on the covers, leading to a somewhat heated and awkward back-and-forth ending with her promising to go count them. The mood of the room was definitely against her, with Lee joking and asking if she wanted the female characters to be "dead center or off-center" on covers."

*grimace*

"On Green Arrow: Krul stated that Oliver Queen will have a new company called QCore that supplies him with technology to facilitate his superhero activities. Krul said that GA will be a fun action-adventure book with a James Bond feel, with artist Jurgens adding that it has a lot of wide-open visuals and action featuring a younger Ollie."

So he's Christian Bale's Batman now? Okay then.

"On Cassandra Cain: Morrison confirmed she exists in the new DCU."

*sets phasers to "cautiously optimistic"*

On Batwing: Winick largely reiterated his statements about the book from the Batman panel two days ago, stressing that he's trying to intertwine superhero action and real-world issues in the Democratic Republic of Congo. He also called Africa "a very politicized and ravaged country."

This... does not bode well.

"On Animal Man: Jeff Lemire stated that the book's main character is actually Buddy Baker's daughter Maxine, who's developing new powers. The book will also chronicle the Baker family traveling across America. He described it as a horror book, not a superhero book."

And another part of Casstoons continuity has become canon. Weird.

"On Demon Knights: Cornell described the basic concept of the series: seven strangers in a small medieval town, including Etrigan the Demon, being forced to defend it from a horde when they just want to get a drink, comparing it to The Magnificent Seven. He stated that many of the characters were there in Camelot and, after its fall, are attempting to keep its noble spirit alive. He also once again described the Horsewoman, a "diversity character, to state it crudely" who he compared to the Man With No Name."

Lookin' forward to this series. Heh.

"On Stormwatch: Stormwatch attempt to keep themselves hidden from both the people of the world and the superheroes who they regard as brightly-colored amateurs. They see themselves as a "higher authority," and the villain in the first arc is the moon, which has come alive. Cornell also commented on Apollo and Midnighter, who are both gay but meet for the first time in the first issue. Cornell wants to write a slow-build romance between the two. He also joked about his presence on the Gays in Comics panel later in the evening, saying that if he decided to "go in another direction" with Apollo and Midnighter, he wouldn't expect to leave that panel alive."

...Also semi-looking forward to this one. Though I am mildly confused as they seem to have both Jenny Quantum (canon in the DCU, another bizarre Casstoons prediction) as well as this woman called Jenny Blitz, who I think is meant to be the representation of Flashpoint's Earth or something.

From here and here,
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/07/23/justice-league-panel-comic-con/
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/07/23/dc-new-52-panel-day-3-comic-con/
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/07/24/dc-comics-dark-edge-panel-comic-con/

For legality, Rob Liefeld's Hawk and Dove series, and Tim Drake and Cassie Sandsmark from the new Teen Titans comic,

Comments

[cypherfdp]

The mood of the room was definitely against her, with Lee joking and asking if she wanted the female characters to be "dead center or off-center" on covers."

Winick largely reiterated his statements about the book from the Batman panel two days ago, stressing that he's trying to intertwine superhero action and real-world issues in the Democratic Republic of Congo. He also called Africa "a very politicized and ravaged country."

Go DC!!!!

[flidgetjerome]

He also called Africa "a very politicized and ravaged country."

This... does not bode well.

Ah, Judd Winick and his magical ability to champion a worthy cause that he will then repeatedly injure through his own ham-fisted actions.

It's a pity because we could really use a Black African superhero who wasn't coming from some fantasy land like Wakanda but unfortunately Winick's not the guy to write that story.

[shadowpsykie]

really? cuz i really like his Mia Dearden stuff, as well as his Red Hood Stuff... i mean when almost anyone else wrote them they just didn't get them... he does...

[minervasolo.livejournal.com]

I have very little faith in anyone who refers to Africa as a country.

This!

[pepperspray101]

lol, THANK YOU.

[jaybee3]

I thought I was the only one who noticed that. There's a lot of difference from a character being from the "Democratic Republic of the Congo" to South Africa to Nigeria to Ethiopia to the newly-independent South Sudan. Politics, religion, natural resources, etc. are all different. There's no one "Africa".

[nickfury90]

I also have to laugh at that kind of ignorance. It's 2011, and people still refer to Africa as "the black country".

[leikomgwtfbbq]

Yeah, that annoyed me. It's a bloody continent! And a pretty diverse one!

[shadowpsykie]

that can't be liefield? they have feet bwahahahahahahaha (sorry so much coffee)

Hmmm the pages for TT look good tim looks kinda sexy in that shirt :D

Looking forward to Maxine.

Side Bar, got a drawing of GA from Krul signed and A Red Robin from Lobdell signed (Bless them, they are writers not artists :D

Also got a Catman from (oh god i can't remember... I think he was an artist on Secret Six as his name plate had an image of the Six that i thought was a cover but just did a cover searcha nd could not find it.... he has an italian last name and was sitting next to Gail at the signings... its a GREAT picture....)

and a batgirl from Freddie Williams II :D

[grimmbear]

Oh come on! He's had 10 years to learn to draw. Feet should come easy at this point. LOL

[rdfox]

I promise, I will find something positive to say about every post I put the CornetteFace on, from here on out.

This post's positive: Damn, I wouldn't have guessed that was Liefeld. I know I've been saying he certainly seemed to have improved on his recent Marvel books (look at early issues of Deadpool Corps, for example), but... people have feet! And discernible joints! And anatomy that's close enough to human to qualify as merely stylized! I mean, yes, Dove's still impossibly wasp-waisted, but her spine isn't curved beyond recognition, and her skinniness is no more implausible than the thickness of Hawk's limbs--both just a *little* beyond the limits of real human anatomy. Holy shit, did he go to art college in the last couple years or something?

And now. With that out of the way, the rest of this post, showing just how much faith I have in anything promising said at SDCC:

[greenmask]

That is an admirable promise!

[aaron_bourque]

That is the dopiest grin on Tim's face. "Oh yeah, I can fly now!"

[tsunamiwombat]

Yeah thats kind of cute but I really preferred the hyper compitent 'teenaged batman' Tim we had gotten while he was the Red Hood, shifting back to happy go lucky kid tim is going to be a bit jarring for me.

[darkknightjrk]

So, if I got this right, the woman was complaining that none of the Justice League covers released so far featured any of the women of the book.

The thing that bothers me about that is this...there's been two covers released so far, one of which is meant to show the entire new "big seven" of the DCnU, and the other is to show a plot point in the story, with the DCnU's first Superman/Batman fight.

I mean, when it comes to female creators, I totally agree there should be more, but when you consider that there's at least eight on-going female solo books, and if you are to count team books where there's women on the team or major supporting characters, you got around 26 at least.

DC has problems with their creators--but in terms of their characters, the DCnU seems to be doing pretty well so far in making a more diverse universe in terms of race, gender, and sexual orientation.

[tsunamiwombat]

DC... diversity?
HAHAHAAHAH oh you were serious.

:( That makes me sad.

DC has a history of handling any diversity in a completly hamfisted, bassackwards way. And a tendency to -kill- minority characters. Hell, look at what happened with Steph.

[tsunamiwombat]

"On female characters in the Justice League line: A female fan in a Batgirl costume, with daughter dressed as Spoiler, was very upset by what she said was a lack of female characters being featured centrally on the covers in the Justice League line of books. The panelists said they are trying very hard to take diversity seriously in terms of both gender and race. The fan said no such characters were featured prominently on the covers, leading to a somewhat heated and awkward back-and-forth ending with her promising to go count them. The mood of the room was definitely against her, with Lee joking and asking if she wanted the female characters to be "dead center or off-center" on covers."

Someone needs to find out who this woman was so we can congradulate her for standing up for her beliefs and console her that not all comic fans are against her. All she has to do is make a facebook post and we could have a movement.

Stay classy DC, humiliating your fans in public infront of their children, great way to go.

[greenmask]

t
This is her twitter account, apparently.

[pepperspray101]

Wow, I did not think it possible to hate DC any more than I do. Fuck this company.

[tsunamiwombat]

You mean:

[tsunamiwombat]

To be positive (since I used the Cornett Face meme) I am looking foreward to Demon Knights the magnificent 7 style comic.

So long as there is plenty of Etrigan snark.

[greenmask]

Majority female cast, too, apparently.

[mommy]

Is there any news on whether or not Connor Hawke exists in the Reboot?

[flidgetjerome]

I haven't seen anything and I've been keeping an eye out.

[nickfury90]

Morrison "Do more women want to write DC Superhero comic books?" a few women yelled out "Yes!" Morrison: " Then send your stuff in!"

There are loads of great woman creators out there, but DC can only hire those who are chomping at the bit, so more "DC Women" need to flood the offices with pitches and artwork. Gail and Nicola and Amy Reeder are great, but there's got to be woman writers out there. In fact I know there are...I've seen dozens and dozens of them writing livejournals and short-fiction about the DC Characters they enjoy. Hell, they're on this very website. You want the real thing? You go and fight for it. DC doesn't separate talent by genitalia; there isn't a stack for Adam and a stack for Amanda.

[shadowpsykie]

Actually DC approached several women, both artists and writers, to join them, but as Gail Simone said, It wasn't the right time for them, as many of they had other projects they had commitments to.

Its not like they are not trying (could they try Harder? maybe find some new talent? yes) but they are trying.

[leikomgwtfbbq]

I'm sorely tempted by Demon Knights. That just sounds cool.

Not sure if want everything else.

(Except Cass. Do want Cass back.)

[leikomgwtfbbq]

Oh, and do want Ryan Choi back. He was sooooo much cooler than Ray Palmer.

[pyrotwilight]

Wow, I hate to lend praise to something Liefeld related but someone remembered that Dawn has blond hair when she's not Dove? I'm flabbergasted.

[turtlefu]

It's okay, you can take your praise back. He's only the penciller, not the colorist.

[nezchan]

Hanks' face on the left of that first panel isn't exactly....human, is it?

Yeah, Liefeld.

[nickfury90]

Ah man, people complain about Ramos now, but look at that shit he did back then in that avatar. Shame too, since that's actually a pretty darn good Spider-Man/Green Goblin story.

[junipepper]

What. Is the deal with Dawn's eyebrow? She seems to have her hair tucked behind it. How does that work?

I did think that before these most recent "Brightest Day" appearances, Dawn had blond hair, not white, when she's not being Dove, so that's nice to see, but... Dude. Eyebrow.

[nezchan]

I think it's supposed to be some of that anime-style transparent hair that you can see eyes through.

It's stupid when the Japanese do it, Leifeld doesn't get a pass.

[majingojira]

The fan said no such characters were featured prominently on the covers, leading to a somewhat heated and awkward back-and-forth ending with her promising to go count them. The mood of the room was definitely against her, with Lee joking and asking if she wanted the female characters to be "dead center or off-center" on covers

And thus they helped cement the stereotype that most comic book fans are forever alone virgins.

Nice going, guys.

[thebigapricot]

If you had read the coverage you would have known she with her daughter at the show you would have known the "virgin" remark was wrong.

You might want to read the coverage of what happened before you start throwing out judgements. I think she's pretty cool.

[bluestar86]

Why did it have to be Morrison that says Cass is around? I despise Morrison!

Batwing looks like it will be absolutely terrible. I don't read comics for politics, in fact I can safely say comics are at their worst when they get political. People might disagree with me, but I doubt it.

[marco]

Lol, if you were serious, I am so glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. When I read it, I smiled since Cass is still around but went, "guh, Morrison /cringing shiver".

I think when people try to mix diversity and politics in comics, it's not going to work. Okay, technically, I'm really just speaking about DC here, but yeah. I think to an extent, politics can work for comics sometimes, but here? No. Not looking forward to that at all.

[midnightvoyager]

Oh my GOD, that goddamn ART, it HURTS *froth*

why liefeld why

PS: Winick, I have something for you. A little present from the Whose Line cast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8Q10g_Mov4

[frostedone]

Cass and Ryan exist in the DCnU? SWEET!!

For Batwing, I really hope this book does well, but isn't one of the rules of Superhero comics to not have them interact with real life/world issues?