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icon_uk ([personal profile] icon_uk) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2011-08-20 17:38

Meet the DC Fifty-Too!

Some of you have already come across a fun new blogspot, which offers and ALTERNATIVE new titles from DC which they would like to see..

Welcome to the DC Fifty-Too, a blog curated by cartoonist Jon Morris.



First up, more Katie Cook cuteness



I already want to see this is a mini-series!

Then, a relaunch of a Jack Kirby classic character by Robert Wilson IV



Why yes, he is a cute blond heroic type who goes around in nothing more than cropped jeans and accompanied by a 7-foot tiger man.... Wanna make something of it?

Let me say here and now that I LOVE that Robin costume... designed by Tim Seeley (current writer of Witchblade)



And this looks like it could be oodles of fun too, from Mike Horton (And I want the guy on the right's T shirt!



Mike says: Blue Beetle is my favorite DC character. Probably my favorite comic book character in general. I had a Ted Kord: Year One mini in development for like a week a few years ago and the cover concept for my Fifty Two cover comes from an pitch I had in with J. Torres around 2004 or so. The idea being that Dan Garrett's long lost grandson would claim the Blue Beetle legacy. The original pitch called for him to be trained by Booster and Beetle in a "My Two Dads" situation. Since then, Ted died and Booster became a full on time traveller. Jaime Reyes was also introduced and I loved him. So I just retooled the idea to make for a team-up type story. The talented Zac Atkinson (www.evilbyme.com) colored it for me. I hope you like it!


I strongly urge you to visit the Fifty-Too site, as there are many more samples in there from different genres (WWII Liberty Belle headlining her own series for one) and given it's only a week old I'm sure there's more goodness to come! :)

And for legality, from the most recent and final JLA, Dick and Donna discuss their JLA adventures, with Dick seeming to be channelling James Robinson, and Donna perhaps explaining her absence in the new DCU. Though I'm not sure what's up with her face there, it doesn't look much like how I think of Donna.



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[personal profile] generalfreedom 2011-08-20 18:03 (UTC)(link)
Why hello there new white kid that can replace Jamie if anything bad happens to him!

I kid. I hope.
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[personal profile] fifthie 2011-08-20 18:13 (UTC)(link)
Haha it is a bit "XTREME new *identifiably white* character in foreground, fully masked ethnic character in background"
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[personal profile] fifthie 2011-08-20 18:23 (UTC)(link)
Which character looks like the sidekick to which character on that cover
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[personal profile] fifthie 2011-08-20 18:36 (UTC)(link)
Man turtlefu was kinda right you really do try to minimize and downplay like any and every example of this sort of thing, I mean dang
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[personal profile] cainofdreaming 2011-08-20 19:21 (UTC)(link)
Personal attacks are always a classy way to disagree.
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[personal profile] drmcninja 2011-08-20 23:43 (UTC)(link)
For real. That original comment should never have been made.

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[personal profile] runespoor 2011-08-20 23:47 (UTC)(link)
If I read the rules right, it's not considered a personal attack to call someone out when you think their attitude is problematic.
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[personal profile] drmcninja 2011-08-21 00:10 (UTC)(link)
I didn't mean fifthie really, more turtlefu, which didn't call icon out on his attitude so much as his basic reasoning and the way he interpreted/reasoned with comics. It may not have even been a personal attack then, but personally it seemed unecessary to call him out on it at all.
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[personal profile] cainofdreaming 2011-08-21 01:15 (UTC)(link)
'Calling someone out' is just another way of saying calling someone racist, in this case. Which is very much a personal attack in my eyes, and I dare say most other peoples'. Or do you disagree?
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[personal profile] salinea 2011-08-21 19:47 (UTC)(link)
The mod team and the [community profile] scans_daily policy disagrees. Calling someone a racist is not the greatest crime that can be committed in words, and even if it were - pointing out that things people do or say are silencing or pandering to a privileged majority is not 'calling someone a racist'. It is definitively acceptable to point out that a comment supports or may support institutionalised racism whether it is explicitly or implicitly. It is absolutely acceptable to discuss such matters with other commenters. Not every conversation about depiction of race is a competition to see who can be crowned Monarch of RIghteousness - most are good faith debates designed to make the subject of race in fiction more easily comprehensible. When you start whining about who's calling who a racist, you get in the way and set everybody back.

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[personal profile] bestiasono 2011-08-20 20:45 (UTC)(link)
So Batman is a sidekick? http://www.recalledcomics.com/AllStarBatmanAndRobin10RecalledCoverSml.jpg
http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/06/bmrob-cv2-var-copy.jpg
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ7-8s_BKFp0BmKti7MYA-QD7cfceMoZUaE37XKrBeyzxB2FEPO7g

In fact, sidekicks generally go in the front. A quick google search for "Batman Robin Cover" shows that Robin is almost always in the front. So yes, this cover shows the white kid as the sidekick to the ethnic character (which would be nice for a change, wouldn't it?).

Now did you really need to resort to personal attacks?
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[personal profile] gamerguy 2011-08-20 21:22 (UTC)(link)
Not everything is automatically designed to rub sand into your eyes, you know? You can have a white character in the book without it being some kind of weird patriarchy white privilege conspiracy designed to oppress the poor hispanic kid that usually looks just as white as his partner, there.

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[personal profile] runespoor 2011-08-20 21:28 (UTC)(link)
Maybe you disagree with the interpretation, but the fact, the most eye-catching thing on that cover is a white kid, who is a new character specifically introduced in one of the comics where the main character is not white.

There is nothing wrong with calling that out, and you are way more out of line than Turtlefu. So kindly dial it back.

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[personal profile] runespoor 2011-08-20 22:21 (UTC)(link)
Aaaaaand I meant Fifthie. ->why I should have taken a step back. I apologize, Fifthie.

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[personal profile] jlbarnett 2011-08-20 22:38 (UTC)(link)
just going by the cover, and not the blurb below it, that doesn't look like a kid to me. I figured it was a Ted Kord set at the average age of superheroes(mid-20's IMO) without the gut and all they stuck him with. It is his ship, his goggles, his shirt and I'm pretty sure he has brown hair.

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[personal profile] auggie18 2011-08-21 05:39 (UTC)(link)
...isn't it more that the most eye-catching thing on the cover is a fan character that does not actually exist in the comics, being introduced in a comic which is not actually being made?


This isn't a book on the market. This is someone's character. And it just seems like he wants his character to play with Jaime.
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[personal profile] salinea 2011-08-21 19:48 (UTC)(link)
Not everything is designed to rub sand in eyes, but exaggerated fanciful sentences about the Phantom Privilege almost certainly are. You can disagree with a commenter's observation without taking it to petty prose about how they are wrong and daft to think what they think. In future, please do so.
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[personal profile] drmcninja 2011-08-20 23:46 (UTC)(link)
No, I agree with icon. This looks more like them introducing a new character to an established hero. A sidekick. Jamie isn't in his shadow, or grinning like an idiot, he looks serious and more powerful, and even in one picture exhibits a far more reasonable attitude. Also the new guy just looks like a sidekick. Jeans, shoes, a shirt, a jacket and goggles. Not really looking the hero part.
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[personal profile] lieut_kettch 2011-08-21 04:03 (UTC)(link)
Throwing in my two cents' worth: it DOES look like the Dan Garrett grandson is rushing headlong into danger while Jaime looks just about ready to do a facepalm.

So Jaime is acting as the established and more experienced mentor that's trying to break in the newbie.

And note that it seems that The Scarab has decided to stay with Jaime and the new guy has to rely on Ted's hand-me-downs.
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[personal profile] salinea 2011-08-21 22:10 (UTC)(link)
And I think we're pretty much done anything good that might occur in this part of the discussion. Thread frozen.