scans_daily: Batman Inc. #8 preview

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@ 2011-08-23 07:13 pm UTC

Current music:	"The Game Has Changed" - Tron Legacy Soundtrack
Entry tags:	char: batman/bruce wayne, creator: dave beaty, creator: grant morrison, creator: scott clark, title: batman, title: batman inc

Batman Inc. #8 preview

ComicBookResources has the preview of issue #8.

What happens when you merge Batman with Tron?

I must say, having spent some time with animation software and modeling, this particular look is harder than it seems to achieve.

I hope this is a worthy end for this version of Batman.

shame I won't see Man-of-Bats and other cool bats like the ones we were introduced to.

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	no subject halloweenjack 2011-08-24 02:25 am UTC (link)
	For some reason, the splash reminds me of Mike Saenz's work. (Reply to this)

	no subject thatnickguy 2011-08-24 02:27 am UTC (link)
	Whoa. Okay, I'm getting the inevitable trade JUST for this issue. (Reply to this)

	no subject aaron_bourque 2011-08-24 02:37 am UTC (link)
	Well, looks better than Digital Justice. That thing not only didn't age well, but looked pretty bad at the time . . . (Reply to this)

	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-08-24 02:58 am UTC (link)
	shame I won't see Man-of-Bats and other cool bats like the ones we were introduced to. why do you say that...,? Batman Inc is still continuing... and the batbooks are gonna be moslty unchanged.... they aren't gonna be wiped... (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 5 comments) (Show 5 comments)

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mrstatham
2011-08-24 07:22 am UTC (link)

I think it doesn't help that DC have allowed the book to be sidelined so badly by the reboot with the scheduling all over the place. At this point, we were meant to have more of a resolution, leading into the Leviathan maxiseries of next year.

That they're lumping the remaining issues of Inc into a one-shot before Leviathan comes out speaks volumes. It just makes it feel like they don't care at all, and it seems they're more interested in what Snyder brings to the table, now.

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	no subject arbre_rieur 2011-08-24 07:28 am UTC (link)
	Considering how chronically late the Morrison Batbooks have been for a long time now, I don't think the relaunch is to blame for the current bout of tardiness, which is just the latest in a long line. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject mrstatham 2011-08-24 07:32 am UTC (link)
	Point taken, but they could've just done a new number one, like they are for... Ugh, Finch. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject arbre_rieur 2011-08-24 07:48 am UTC (link)
	They kind of are doing that with LEVIATHAN. It's not one of the 52 launch titles, but the launch titles are all meant to be ongoings (though I doubt anyone's under the misapprehension none of them will get canceled), and Morrison's saga is a finite one. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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mrstatham
2011-08-24 09:14 am UTC (link)

Again, point taken. I just think it would've made more sense to just carry on with Inc as is or just relaunch it in September with a new art team, seeing as they're seemingly keeping some elements of the concept in place.

I do wonder if the Stephanie Brown-Batgirl story will still be in place, or if it'll be changed to reflect the freshly de-aged Barbara, though.

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	no subject thehefner 2011-08-24 03:18 am UTC (link)
	Ewwww, really? People are digging this? It ALREADY looks dated. But then, I was the one who thought that John Van Fleet's CGI art in "The Clown at Midnight" looked like something out of some mid-90's horror game for the PC, so what do I know? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 6 comments) (Show 6 comments)

	no subject arbre_rieur 2011-08-24 08:43 am UTC (link)
	I think it works here because it's not pretending to be real life. Rather, it's all a simulation on Internet 3.0, so looking like something out of Second Life actually fits. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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mrstatham
2011-08-24 09:25 am UTC (link)

This. It's meant to be a computer program, so any perceived crappiness and the like, or quality of the graphics, can be attributed to that, at the very least. Whereas The Clown at Midnight was just ugly - I couldn't believe it was by the same John Van Fleet who did amazing work with Ann Nocenti on Typhoid and Poison Ivy using perfectly competent and beautiful pencils.

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	no subject jlroberson 2011-08-26 04:20 am UTC (link)
	I just read it last night. I'm sorry to say this: it looks like total shit and the story is utterly without interest. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject thehefner 2011-08-26 04:43 am UTC (link)
	Jesus, thank you. I thought I was nuts for thinking that this looked like shit. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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jlroberson
2011-08-26 05:52 am UTC (link)

No, no, it sucks. And the writing isn't that good. It's very dispirited. And it's especially a comedown after the fairly good Man of Bats story; total smack of inertia.

And frankly, I'm starting to understand BATMAN INC. as Morrison's own psychological working-out of his total embrace of the Corporation. Much as you can read many of his works as a psychological conversation with himself over the last two and a half decades--even he now encourages that reading with what he says in SUPERGODS. His characters are a bit like a child talking through his dolls.(that's not meant as a negative or positive comment; but when kids do that, what are they really doing?)

I mean, it's interesting to compare the way he writes about them now to INVISIBLES(wow, that Grant seems very far away now) or Hexus in MARVEL BOY.

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	no subject sherkahn 2011-08-26 05:02 am UTC (link)
	Have to agree with you. That splash page was the best thing out of the entire issue. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject nezchan 2011-08-24 04:23 am UTC (link)
	Ohgod, the TEXTURES! (Reply to this)

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darkknightjrk
2011-08-24 04:28 am UTC (link)

"I hope this is a worthy end for this version of Batman."

It's not the end--sometime this year they're supposed to release a one-shot called Leviathan Strikes, which will contain what was going to be issues #9 (the Stephanie Brown as Batgirl issue) and #10. And then in early 2012, there's going to be a twelve-part mini that's going to close out Morrison's entire run of the character.

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	no subject crazycomiccult.blogspot.com 2011-08-24 04:40 am UTC (link)
	So Bruce creates Internet 3.0, then introduces viruses into it in order to simulate how effective the anti-virus to the problem he created is? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 15 comments) (Show 15 comments)

	no subject glprime 2011-08-24 05:34 am UTC (link)
	Seriously, they just came out with this, is someone paying the tech supervillains to program interfaces and such for cyber-robberies? I mean, Barbara helped make the damn system infrastructure; how in the Intergods' names did somebody easily crack into that? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 10 comments) (Show 10 comments)

	no subject mrstatham 2011-08-24 09:27 am UTC (link)
	Leviathan's meant to have a big reach, and have some of the chumps on board who screwed with Bruce's life during RIP. In that sense, it'd make sense that either Leviathan or another group of villains might have someone dedicated to cyber-stuff. That was Calculator's schtick, after all - To be the anti-Oracle. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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crazycomiccult.blogspot.com
2011-08-24 11:49 am UTC (link)

Not only that but the project should still be in beta right? Since most companies keep developing projects on a closed server, a hacker would actually have to break into WayneIndustries and physically plug into this server before he do anything. Isn't Batman Inc protecting WayneIndustries now? So that makes breaking in that much harder.

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	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-08-24 02:59 pm UTC (link)
	like people have NEVER hacked, or used a Beta to get into a game... (plays WoW) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 7 comments) (Show 7 comments)

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mrstatham
2011-08-24 03:18 pm UTC (link)

For in-universe examples, the Justice League satellite or headquarters or whichever incarnation of the team and whichever base they're using - you can guarantee there's gonna be at least one story per run about a villain gaining access to the Watchtower or whatever, usually by hacking. Given the gathering of technologies in the League, from Bruce's top stuff to Atlantean, Themysciran and Kryptonian stuff, the HQ of the Justice League should be damn near impregnable.

And yet, chumps like Prometheus are always gaining access.

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	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-08-24 03:20 pm UTC (link)
	they must feel so pregnable when that happens :D (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject mrstatham 2011-08-24 03:22 pm UTC (link)
	I want that to be a line of dialogue, now. Maybe from someone like Green Arrow. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

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shadowpsykie
2011-08-24 03:33 pm UTC (link)

actually it is.... its from a superboy/batgirl team up... Conner and Cass teamed up tvtropes has it under Dope Slap

•Superboy (Conner Kent) received one from Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) during a team-up. Superboy, being the Casanova Wannabe that he was at the time, continuously showed off his tactile-telekinesis in order to impress her. When she simply ignores him and uses his Nigh Invulnerability as a Human Shield to protect her from an explosion, he finally gets angry and snaps back with a "What the Hell, Hero?" rant. Cassandra calmly slaps him across the forehead and says, "Focus." And Superboy is shocked that it hurt.
Superboy: She got past my force-field. My impregnable force-field. I feel so... pregnable.

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	no subject mrstatham 2011-08-24 04:20 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, I remember that. It's a pity that they abandoned that casanova aspect of Conner for the misery-guts he became once he was under Johns' pen. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject twospirit.blogspot.com 2011-08-24 05:59 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, but much like in the real world, JL puts information security at the bottom of its priority list for funding, updating, etc. On the other hand, wouldn't it be pretty frikkin sweet to be the tech that gets called in for THAT? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject crazycomiccult.blogspot.com 2011-08-24 05:27 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, but that's the case where the game is connected to the internet, in this case it's not connected to the regular internet. (Having now actually read the issue I will say that Morrison writes it in a way that makes sense so I've got no complaints about that plot point) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject renie_sulaweyo 2011-08-24 05:37 am UTC (link)
	I think that are just indepent hackers trying to crash the party. I'm confused why they have to carry guns... (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject sianmink 2011-08-24 06:05 am UTC (link)
	I'm confused why they have to carry guns... Too much MW2 (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject icon_uk 2011-08-24 07:12 am UTC (link)
	Easy iconography to comprehend and instantly understood as weapons by their targets. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject jlroberson 2011-08-26 06:23 am UTC (link)
	BECAUSE THE KIDS LOVE THE GUNS AND UNCLE GRANT WANTS TO STAY COOL (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject brilliantnova 2011-08-24 05:33 am UTC (link)
	-_-; (Reply to this)

	no subject thanekos 2011-08-24 06:04 am UTC (link)
	The Unternet is laughing. So much. (Reply to this)

	no subject icon_uk 2011-08-24 07:14 am UTC (link)
	So... Oracle is now a free download from Waynetech now? How... embarassing I'm not even getting ReBoot vibes from this, I'm getting the Questworld sequences from The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 6 comments) (Show 6 comments)

	no subject biod 2011-08-24 08:40 am UTC (link)
	The one spoken of in the book of RRRAAAAAAGE!? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 5 comments) (Show 5 comments)

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icon_uk
2011-08-24 09:21 am UTC (link)

I think it was one of the Ezekiel Rage episodes that featured one of my favourite "They got THAT past the censors?" moments.

Race Bannon is greeted by a rival Soviet agent and frequent opposite number, who is a stunnignly beautiful woman (natch). She walks up to him and greets him by slapping him hard across the face and saying something like "THAT was for Vienna!". As he's still rubbing his jaw she then gives him a long and smouldering smooch, as she finshes and turns away Jonny asks (in a slightly stunned voice) "And what was that for", she turns back, smiles and says.. "THAT was for Capetown" and never elaborates further.

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shadowpsykie
2011-08-24 03:01 pm UTC (link)

As he's still rubbing his jaw she then gives him a long and smouldering smooch, as she finshes and turns away Jonny asks (in a slightly stunned voice) "And what was that for", she turns back, smiles and says.. "THAT was for Capetown" and never elaborates further.

hmmm that doesn't seem to be Censor shocking.... more like typical slap slap kiss kiss

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icon_uk
2011-08-24 03:07 pm UTC (link)

I think it was the WAY she said it, it wasn't just a "Thank you" kiss, it was a "That was a FANTASTIC night we had darling" sort of a kiss. Or maybe I was just reading a lot into it. I rather liked TRAoJQ (I never remember them showing any of the earlier JQ series in the UK, and so the only exposure I had to it was a lone VHS compilation I chanced upon, and the Freakazoid spoof Toby Danger

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	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-08-24 03:11 pm UTC (link)
	heh oh no i totally get it. as adults we ALL know what Capetown meant kids would just be like "Oh teehee she likes him" us is like.... "I'll have what she's having" (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

Go Team Danger!

capt_satellite
2011-08-24 07:45 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, I loved the Toby Danger bit...I about dropped my dentures when I first saw it....I wish they'd done one or two more. Of course, The Venture Bros took the JQ ball, ran with it, scored, and started their own entire league! One of those rare instances where an homage/parody becomes something far greater than its inspiration. If you're not a Venture Bros fan, shame on you :)

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	no subject tacitoz 2011-08-24 09:05 am UTC (link)
	I never understood the concept of anthropomorphic computer programs. It just makes no sense. Is it only me or do the terrorists/hackers/whatever look like Resident Evil zombies? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

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mrstatham
2011-08-24 09:16 am UTC (link)

I think in the sense that these people are actually entering what seems to be a more virtual-reality world, it makes more sense to equip the user with a form that they are used to and understand, at least at first. You can imagine, maybe, these people eventually modding and changing the code as they come to understand the system, but to start off, I think it makes more sense to have these people look like, well, people.

Because these aren't really computer programs. More representations of the users, kinda like Tron, only they've not been absorbed into the network.

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	no subject tacitoz 2011-08-24 09:18 am UTC (link)
	They did say Batgirl(woman?) was an antivirus, though or is she also just a user and logged in and is just helping them out? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject mrstatham 2011-08-24 09:23 am UTC (link)
	The Batgirl construct there is actually Barbara Gordon, her digital avatar. She's pretty much an 'anti-virus' in that she polices Bruce's new Internet 3.0 and stops anything untoward happening on her watch. I think the concept was first put forward in the 'Batman: The Return' issue. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-08-24 03:03 pm UTC (link)
	yeah and Despite Tim exploring the Unternet, he gave this job specifically to her. And the way he is looking at her in the next page makes it look like he's pretty amazed by her :D (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject shobogan 2011-08-24 09:04 pm UTC (link)
	I was...really hoping Barbara wouldn't go with a Batgirl costume. (On the other hand I just wrote that she really likes Cass's so I feel kind of validated.) I do like that she's on a motorcycle, though. I always figured she'd miss hers a lot, and while riding behind Dinah is its own wonderful experience it isn't the same. (Reply to this)

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