scans_daily: Flashpoint Lois and Kal-el Meet Again.

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@ 2011-08-28 01:36 pm UTC

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char: lois lane, char: superman/clark kent, creator: gene ha, creator: lowell francis, creator: scott snyder, event: flashpoint

Flashpoint Lois and Kal-el Meet Again.

Flashpoint: Project Superman #3

Subject Zero returns to exact his revenge on General Lane by taking out Lois and his "adopted" son, Kal-El.

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	no subject fifthie 2011-08-29 04:11 am UTC (link)
	I'm tired of people just applying Stuffed In Fridges tropes to every single fucking death. I'm sorry that you're tired of people correctly applying that term to situations which perfectly fit the definition of that term. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 8 comments) (Show 8 comments)

	no subject thehefner 2011-08-29 05:03 am UTC (link)
	I fucking love your sarcasm. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject fifthie 2011-08-30 06:28 pm UTC (link)
	I'm not even totally sure it's sarcasm! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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biznizzonpeyote
2011-08-29 05:04 am UTC (link)

So when somebody dies, it's automatically a Fridging? When my grandpa died, he was fridged? When a person dies in an autobiography dies, it's a fridging?

Uncle Ben fridged? Yes? Oh, goodie. Thomas & Martha Wayne fridged? Really? Oh, wow...

Not to mention how I get pissed off during the New Testament when Jesus is fridged to die for everyones' sins. Couldn't they just deliver the same message with him alive?

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shadowpsykie
2011-08-29 05:30 am UTC (link)

I admit that you have a point. But I think you need to back down just a little bit. You are bordering on openly hostile right now.

In this particular case, I might have to agree with fifte 9and we all know how much I enjoy that) I do infact think its a fridging. Especially when Lois clearly calls attention to this fact...part of me thinks this is a straight up fridge, another part of me thinks its a little more complicated than that.

Mods I'm sorry if I have spoken out of school.

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biznizzonpeyote
2011-08-29 05:47 am UTC (link)

Sorry. It just that, while I am against sexism in comics, the "Fridging" terms have been distorted and bloated into becoming so vague & all encompassing just like the Mary Sue tropes. It cheapens everything that it touches. Sorry that I was being a little hostile.

Yeah, Lois calling attention to it is lampshading a trope that, personally I don't see as fridging, is as old as dirt. Like when Heracles' family was murdered when Hera made him insane & the hero himself set off on his Great Tasks to repent.

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arbre_rieur
2011-08-29 06:51 am UTC (link)

I kind of agree that it gets over-applied. I think it's a bit much when you're starting to say the very idea of using character death as a motivator should be off the table. I also have a problem with criticism that a supporting character exists to motivate the main character because, well, I don't see anything wrong with that. The entire story's there to service the main character, and that includes the cast.

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	no subject salinea 2011-08-29 11:50 am UTC (link)
	What's your definition of fridging that doesn't include this instance? I agree the term can be overused; but this specific case seems to fit perfectly to me. Why do you think it doesn't? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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fifthie
2011-08-29 06:30 am UTC (link)

So when somebody dies, it's automatically a Fridging?

When someone dies in exactly the way described by a fridging, then it is a fridging.

When my grandpa died, he was fridged? When a person dies in an autobiography dies, it's a fridging?

Well, fridging is a term used to refer to fictitious works, so, no, those deaths which are not included in the definition of "fridging" as typically applied would not be referred to as fridgings.

Not to mention how I get pissed off during the New Testament when Jesus is fridged to die for everyones' sins. Couldn't they just deliver the same message with him alive?

In much the same way that Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Superman, and other characters who are main characters who sacrifice themselves heroically for the good of others and then subsequently return from the dead do not have their deaths referred to as "fridgings", Jesus would also not have his death referred to as a fridging, since his death meets few if any of the criteria typically used in applying that description. All of this of course setting aside the earlier mentioned matter of reality vs. fictitiousness, opinions upon which, in relation to this topic, opinions will, of course, differ.

All pretty much entirely straightforward, really.

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