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And a bit from me, in which I wonder how a modern version of the Phantom of the Opera would work,

I have to note that I AM a fan of the story... some parts don't really translate that well in a modern setting if you think about them too hard though.

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Date: 2011-09-09 01:36 am (UTC)Strange, that.
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Date: 2011-09-09 08:22 am (UTC)Sex offenders trawling for victims and the like.
Not that the Phantom's interest in Christine was protrayed a being sexual in the book... but it wasn't exactly healthy for either party involved either.
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Date: 2011-09-09 05:47 am (UTC)It was a book first.
An AWESOME book.
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Date: 2011-09-09 06:07 am (UTC)Indeed it is. Honestly, I love the book AND the musical, but for anyone that doesn't like how Erik is somewhat "romanticized" in the musical or movies I would definitely recommend the book since he is straight up crazy like whoa in it.
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Date: 2011-09-09 06:17 am (UTC)Prototypical cartoonish supervillain in a dark, gothic, horror story.
Straight up crazy like whoa, indeed.
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Date: 2011-09-09 08:35 am (UTC)Like Erik being about fifty, balding, looking like an albino version of the movie's Red Skull with retroreflective black eyes, who once crushed an old lady to death with a chandelier because she replaced his prefered opera box janitor. Oh, and he literally smelt like death in the book.
Or Dracula, being a moustached, hairy palmed semi-rapist who fed babies to his mini-harem of oversexed vampire girlfriends.
Yet both are protrayed as being young, good looking(ish) and a lot less unpleasant in their pairings with the female protagonists.
Hm, actually both book have the interesting thing of having fair competant female protagonists for their time, but like Mina was eventually brought into the Anti-Vampire group as a more or less equal member (after a lot of patronising remarks from the male members), Christine ALMOST manages to convince Erik not to go up with his evil schemes, but the boyfriend's attempts to rescue her only make him worse.
Christine kind of has the problem of everyone thinking that she's an impressionable idiot, including her fiance Raoul, when most of the time she's got the situation with Erik more or less under control, and it's only other people's (not unreasonable) assumption that Erik is going to murder her on a whim too and thus in need of rescuing, which escalates the situation. Admittedly she does start off as kind of naive, but she gets better, unlike Raoul.
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Date: 2011-09-09 09:19 am (UTC)But yeah, the hairy palms on Dracula somewhat baffled me in the book. I guess it's to alienate him because humans never have hair on their palms? Oh god I need to read that book again, it was so lovely written...And yes, Mina was really nice in the book :)
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Date: 2011-09-09 12:51 pm (UTC)I think that Frankenstein's monster would be one of the harder horror characters to "sexify", for lack of a better word. People have attempted it with female versions of the character, to varying degrees of success, but the Monster doesn't really work in that respect.
Werewolves, yes, depending on which direction they've gone. The Howling remake seems to be a genderswapped Twilight in NYC (blerg).
Vampires, yes, again depending on which version. The new Fright Night movie does a good balance at making the vampires dangerous, sexy and scary at the right moments.
Mummies, ...depending on the type. If they can regenerate to look like how they were when they were alive, like Imhotep from the Mummy films or that Incan girl from Buffy, then it could work.
Aquatic monsters, people have fetishised merfolk for years.
Aliens, ditto.
Witches and wizards, again, the same.
Ghosts, depending on how they're done.
Zombies, would be the other example of non-sexyfiable monsters, but then Tim Burton went with the weirdness that was Corpse Bride, which tried to make itself the exception.
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Date: 2011-09-09 12:54 pm (UTC)they're not zombies per-se but they sure look like some, and damn if they're not fetishized...fetished...fetishified...uh
everything can be sexify and even if it can't there will be someone somewhere who finds it sexy. Humans are weird like that.
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Date: 2011-09-09 04:15 pm (UTC)http://www.google.com/search?q=dean+koo
It's actually a good comic.
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Date: 2011-09-09 08:44 am (UTC)A lot of details are the same, Erik fleeing to America, the parentage of Christine's son, the ending etc. But were also a lot of differences.
There was no Meg/Erik subplot, for example, as well as the revelation that Raoul had been castrated via gunshot while trying to foil a mugging in his youth (which was just meanspirited on the part of the author, frankly). There was also how Erik got his finances, which in PoM was due to him being freaky good at economics and having an assistant that worshipped the demon god of money, Mammon, who acted as Erik's public persona, while in Love Never Dies... errr... Erik gets quite a bit of "help" in that regard, and never thanks those involved for it.
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Date: 2011-09-09 09:08 am (UTC)You do realise you're talking to someone who's never watched the first Musical in any version, let alone the sequel Musical, and that I was merely mocking the annoyingly Anglocentric assumption that any mention of Phantom (or Les Miserable for a similar case) would naturally refer to the musical rather than the novel it was based on (which I have read, on the other hand, though that was a while ago)?
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Date: 2011-09-10 06:56 am (UTC)"The Phantom of the Mall" I shit you not.
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