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Q&A with Wonder Woman - The A stands for Axe

This is, according to Cliff Chiang's tumblr actually “an early promo image we cooked up to visualize our take on Wonder Woman. The original version has pants!”

Date: 2011-09-12 08:27 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Umm... is anyone else seeing her undies as being a little masked face? With the two little white star-shaped eyes and the nosepiece over her.... I want to say crotch, but am never sure whether that's a polite word to use as regards a lady.

Date: 2011-09-12 08:31 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Yeah, sort of Bane-ish.

The top of her undies being two cartoon eyebrows doesn't help.

Date: 2011-09-13 08:39 am (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Cartoon eyebrows!!
Now I see it too XD

Date: 2011-09-12 08:31 pm (UTC)
salinea: Balder is unhappy (*D:*)
From: [personal profile] salinea
OMG can't unsee it!

Date: 2011-09-12 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nemryn
I am now, dammit.

Date: 2011-09-12 09:09 pm (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
Oh God, I hope they talk, and take Diana on whimsical, magical adventures. Maybe they sound like The Eleventh Doctor!

Date: 2011-09-12 10:07 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Robin oh THIS is going to end well)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
That means the voice would be coming out of her... Y'know that mental image is one of those "If I wasn't gay before..." moments.

Date: 2011-09-12 10:27 pm (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
I just want to hear someone ask Diana why her vagina is talking.

Date: 2011-09-12 10:44 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
It's not talking, it's giving a monologue.

Unfortunately, judging by the face, I imagine it having a male voice

Date: 2011-09-13 12:28 am (UTC)
nezchan: My world is a crotch! (crotch)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
Oh, you've seen the movie, then?

Never has this icon been more appropriate.

Date: 2011-09-14 03:34 am (UTC)
riskypair: (Default)
From: [personal profile] riskypair

All I can think of right now is "You have to get out of here! Your vagina is haunted!"

Date: 2011-09-12 11:18 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
Dude. Do we have a secret mind meld or something? Because I was thinking the exact same thing!


Except, not the Eleventh Doctor. I was thinking James Earl Jones or Keith David. She'll be flying around and her undies will shout out "Diana! Down in that alley! That minotaur is stealing a truckload of scones!"

Date: 2011-09-13 02:29 am (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
Holy crap, I read that in Keith David's voice, and it was AWESOME.

Date: 2011-09-13 06:04 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
The PHONE BOOK would be awesome if read aloud by Keith David.

Date: 2011-09-12 08:39 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
That... so needs pants.

Why did they get rid of her pants? And why do her shorts go out like that?

Dig the axe, though.

Date: 2011-09-12 09:08 pm (UTC)
midnightvoyager: (How YOU doin?)
From: [personal profile] midnightvoyager
Because they are idiots and believed that the problems people had with her design were "she has pants now" instead of "not fond of the design in general."

They also might have gone "Well, pants are why people hated the TV show!"

You say I'm assuming the execs don't have the brains God gave corn? You are correct. It's usually a decently accurate assumption.

Date: 2011-09-12 09:28 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
I thought the outfit didn't get that bad of a reaction... aside from the jacket, of course. I think everyone was glad when that was gone.

And the pants seemed to be a part that got them positive attention!

Date: 2011-09-12 09:30 pm (UTC)
salinea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] salinea
I kind of liked the jacket, at least, from pictures... *ducks tomatoes*

Date: 2011-09-12 09:32 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Maybe if it was proper sized...

Also the statue purpose of using it as a civilian disguise by zipping it up was both kinda silly and never used.

Date: 2011-09-14 02:04 pm (UTC)
bariman: by perletwo (Default)
From: [personal profile] bariman
"Hey, isn't that Wonder Woman?"
"I don't know, her jacket's zipped up. I'd have to see her cleavage to be sure."
"She's got an axe!"
"Not that kind of cleavage."

Date: 2011-09-12 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] maridee42
what is with her face?

Date: 2011-09-12 09:04 pm (UTC)
jeyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeyl
I want her pants back.

Date: 2011-09-12 09:09 pm (UTC)
mullon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mullon
I miss her old top. And her old short shorts.

Date: 2011-09-12 09:10 pm (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
Out of all the redesigns that seem to miss the point entirely, I think is probably the #1 offender.

Date: 2011-09-12 09:13 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I think Superman still beats it in those stakes, but it's a close run thing...

Date: 2011-09-12 10:15 pm (UTC)
abriel: (pic#821029)
From: [personal profile] abriel
Okay it isn't so bad when Jim Lee draws it I'll admit but that new costume is hideous. With or without pants.

Date: 2011-09-12 11:33 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
Why are there stars on the red bits?


This would look better with straps.

And, y'know, pants.

Date: 2011-09-13 12:07 am (UTC)
jkcarrier: me, at my old office (Default)
From: [personal profile] jkcarrier
"I know! We'll make Wonder Woman really violent and bad-ass! That'll get people to buy it!" <--- Every WW writer for the past 30 years.

I usually like Chiang's work, but the pose and expression here are just odd. She looks like she's about to take a bite out of her own hand.

Date: 2011-09-13 12:26 am (UTC)
rainspirit: (what the hell)
From: [personal profile] rainspirit
...Can't unsee.

Date: 2011-09-13 12:33 am (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
Looks like she's yawning. I mean she's been mowing down mooks all day in the hot sun, she could use a siesta.

Mad dogs and Englishmen, y'know.

Date: 2011-09-13 02:31 am (UTC)
marco: (glam Masako)
From: [personal profile] marco
Maybe I watch too much anime (technically,r ead too many manga), but I totally got the "damn, I'm such a badass. I barely broke a sweat kicking all that ass now. Watch me look baely worn out while I wipe that one little sweat off my chin. No big, just dirt gettin brushed off mah shoulder."

I don't see this as overtly "rawr!AMAZONSMASH!" violent as other stuff either. I kind of like it. It has an element of strength (and obviously violence) to it, but it feels subdued and more of "the cool after the fight" look to me. And he just looks so witty in some of the scans. (Parts of the preview have left me kind of scowling-pouty though, but they haven't been anything with Diana yet.)

My only complaint is the outfit. it almost works. But it just doesn't.

Date: 2011-09-13 12:57 am (UTC)
tauruschick12: (pic#747378)
From: [personal profile] tauruschick12
I don't mind the new outfit so much. Although I will scream 'she should have Roman/Greco skirt/armor' until I am hoarse, I don't dislike the shorts, as long they don't use the shorts for weird thong fanservice.

Luckily, I have never known Cliff Chiang to draw women exploitatively, even when drawing them fanservice-y, so I am really going top enjoy the art on this one.

Date: 2011-09-13 02:51 am (UTC)
marco: (threetie)
From: [personal profile] marco
Agreed~. I kind of wish they had another star at least but as long as they're actually covering her (and don't go the way the pants did), it's fine to me.

I'll admit to never really seeing his art before now. Your description has me intrigued. Is it kind of like Terry Dodson's or Adam Hughes' art?

Date: 2011-09-13 03:35 am (UTC)
tauruschick12: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tauruschick12
His website: http://www.cliffchiang.com/gallery/

I don't know Terry Dodson's work that well, but I will say that I don't consider Cliff's art to be ANYTHING like Hughes'- of course, I consider Hughes' work to be VERY explotative (he always has women wearing clothes that are 2x too small so that their breasts are falling out, their waists are WAY too small for their bodies, and they always seem to have 'painted on pants' or their shorts look like thongs). I love cheesecake, but Hughes' work...anyway, no, Cliff's work isn't like Hughes', in my opinion.

Aside from having great coloring skills, he has never, that I have seen, drawn women in ridiculous poses that best show off their breasts or asses- they are usually in action poses and the like, and if the women he draws are in sexy clothing or fanservice outfits (like a chain bikini, for example), the clothing actually looks like it FITS and doesn't look sexually exploitative, just sexy. Hell, on the the second cover of this new Wonder Woman series, he has a woman dressed up in a shredded dress and he manages to make it look NOT ridiculous or like random fanservice.

So, haha, yeah, I'm a huge fan. Check out the work on his site though, he really is amazing.

Date: 2011-09-13 07:01 am (UTC)
marco: (threetie)
From: [personal profile] marco
Ahh. Okay. To be honest, most of the art I'd seen of Hughes's art was very exploitative to me (which made me kinda wonder if I was horrible for being one of few that didn't celebrate and enjoy it so much as others when it's posted), but when I looking over some of his stuff, it didn't seem as bad as usual, so I figured maybe it'd be a fair enough comparison. That has me quite confident in Chiang though!

When I first saw the Wondy scans, I kind of shunned it, but as I saw more, I really started falling in love. And I like this. A lot of people are saying they want the pants back, but to me, the pants looked like they were the 'painted on pants' often so I didn't see the point in having them. And now that we have shorts here, I'm glad they're not thong-type, made to look fanservice-y, etc. (and his version of the pants looked good too).

Looking through his site, I do really enjoy his art! And I'm quite sad that I didn't know of him sooner. Thank you for much for sharing all that with me! I now have a new artist that I love. ♥

Date: 2011-09-13 07:19 am (UTC)
halloweenjack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
NO STAR ON MY TAINT MUTHURFUKKUR

Date: 2011-09-13 07:46 am (UTC)
proteus_lives: (Default)
From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
She should fight Axe Cop now.

Date: 2011-09-13 11:51 am (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
I guess it's just me, but I don't really like the idea of Wonder Woman covered in the blood of her enemies. Is she listening to the lamentations of their MEN, here?

Listen: you want a good Wonder Woman? Just use the one from Justice League Unlimited. Warrior, Diplomat and voice of reason with a hint of ingenue and a dash of worldly wise-woman. Give her villains to punch. Done.

Date: 2011-09-13 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] runespoor
The costume doesn't bother me as much as the anatomy. Dear god, how many kilometers are these legs?!?

Date: 2011-09-13 04:07 pm (UTC)
pyrotwilight: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
I think the anatomy's good here. Cliff doesn't tend to really have problems with it. Looks like we're looking up at her at an angle so her legs would look longer.

Date: 2011-09-13 09:40 pm (UTC)
red_menace: BFF? (Default)
From: [personal profile] red_menace
This iteration of the costume looked better with pants.

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