scans_daily: Frankenstein: Agent of SHADE Preview

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@ 2011-09-13 09:53 pm UTC

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char: frankenstein's monster, creator: alberto ponticelli, creator: jeff lemire, title: frankenstein

Frankenstein: Agent of SHADE Preview

I had a choice between this and the new Suicide Squad preview (If you want to see that, you can go here but on your own head be it.)

The following comes from www.acomicbookblog.net

If Dr Frankenstein has gone Ultra-Humanite on us, that's deeply, deeply creepy.

Something tells me that's not the way to get on his good side Ms Creature From the Black Lagoon

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	no subject kd_the_movie 2011-09-13 09:18 pm UTC (link)
	Marvel actually did a similar thing in an Iron Fist One Shot that had Dr. Frankenstein implant his brain in his child son's body. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject drmcninja 2011-09-14 02:21 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, that was pretty awesome. Less awesome now, because I've seen it before. Maybe in some parallel universe, I saw this first, and I am posting this post in reverse on an Iron Fist scene. Trippy. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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hawkmoondirge
2011-09-13 09:20 pm UTC (link)

This is actually pretty cool. The idea works, the characters seem real, and it seems zany. The art is really nice, and i love the man bat connection. Frankesnstien looks to be a sleeper hit, and the Doctor being in a girl's body (priceless)

I did read the squad preview.... Its...mediocre at best. deadshot has 0 voice. It's like the past 30 years have been meaningless for the character. Harley is fine, so theres that but her redesign is still so stripperiffic that it's terrible.

Also, Glass's definition of task force x seems really off, they aren't FORCED, they do the program if they want to. It's just a better alternative.

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	no subject icon_uk 2011-09-13 11:49 pm UTC (link)
	Also, Glass's definition of task force x seems really off, they aren't FORCED, they do the program if they want to. It's just a better alternative. You're assuming that THIS Task Force X works on the same principle as the pre-New-52 one, or that there has even been a Suicide Squad before now. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject hawkmoondirge 2011-09-14 12:03 am UTC (link)
	Ah that much is true. sigh new history is hard to learn sometimes. Not that I think it's a bad method, you want these nut jobs controlled. Still, I think I'm biased. I love osterander and I miss the secret six.... Other than that though the new 52 is pretty good and I'm glad dc is putting quality out there (mostly) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject drmcninja 2011-09-14 02:23 am UTC (link)
	I disagree. The idea works, but the characters seem cliche, aside from the fish lady, and it seems like its trying to take itself too seriously. Not my thing. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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jlroberson
2011-09-14 06:05 am UTC (link)

That's not Dr. Frankenstein in the girl's body--or at least wasn't originally; I don't know if Jeff Lemire has changed that. But the mask is a tipoff that's Father Time, who was in the body of a black man back in 7 SOLDIERS, then later as an old white guy in UNCLE SAM & THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS(because Black Adam ripped off his face in INFINITE CRISIS).

Now, I don't know if this is new continuity and Lemire has conflated Father T with Dr. F. But in any case, that's who this is. It's still funny either way though.

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	no subject drexer 2011-09-13 09:24 pm UTC (link)
	Isn't that just Father Time? You know, with some new mumbo-jumbo of an explanation to get a new body? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject q99 2011-09-13 11:01 pm UTC (link)
	I think so too. Didn't they say something about him regularly getting new looks anyway? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject shanejayell 2011-09-13 09:35 pm UTC (link)
	"Cutting edge Eugenics" ? Wait, what? I thought Eugenics was breeding subjects together to get results. Her father fucked a fish? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 16 comments) (Show 16 comments)

	no subject hawkmoondirge 2011-09-13 09:41 pm UTC (link)
	But it's SCIENCE! May be a case of author's miswording. You are correct in your definition...unless her mom/father fucked a mer-folk (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject glimmung 2011-09-13 09:46 pm UTC (link)
	That is very cutting edge. It requires SCUBA gear. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject shanejayell 2011-09-13 09:52 pm UTC (link)
	I'm guessing they meant 'genetics.' Maybe. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-09-14 02:51 pm UTC (link)
	heh i love how not knowing what he meant is getting us all to "visualize' the alternatives :D (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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drexer
2011-09-13 09:45 pm UTC (link)

No, Eugenics is the social policy of improving the genetic base of a population.

Of course this makes even less sense and in comicbook terms is used as a 'dirty Nazi science word' so as to imply the character has done 'something no one should ever try to do'. Which I think was the point here.

Still makes no sense. Even by comic book science standards.

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	no subject shanejayell 2011-09-13 09:53 pm UTC (link)
	I'm guessing it's a miss-word, honestly. Or someone skimmed Wikipedia and grabbed it without understanding the meaning. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject icon_uk 2011-09-13 10:00 pm UTC (link)
	It could be that she was the first to come up with a practical application for someone else's cutting edge eugenics program (into the metagene?) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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vitruvian23
2011-09-14 06:36 pm UTC (link)

Eugenics technically just refers to any attempt to improve the gene pool. Although historically people have suggested doing this using selective breeding, mainly not letting supposedly genetically inferior people (different races, the congenitally disabled or developmentally disabled, etc.) reproduce, and has therefore been rightly associated with hateful and hate-filled ideologies, there's no reason the label couldn't also apply to the use of outright genetic engineering, so long as it was germline engineering where the fish lady could pass on her new genes to any offspring.

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	no subject crinos 2011-09-13 09:49 pm UTC (link)
	Looks like you beat me to it. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject shanejayell 2011-09-13 09:56 pm UTC (link)
	We think alike. high fives (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject vitruvian23 2011-09-14 02:43 am UTC (link)
	Maybe the family's from Innsmouth. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject proteus_lives 2011-09-14 06:12 am UTC (link)
	Outsider! Do not speak of Father Dagon's town. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

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vitruvian23
2011-09-14 06:33 pm UTC (link)

Oh, you mean the one where the Navy rounded up all the residents back in the Twenties after sending torpedoes down into the abyss just past Devil Reef? Not much of a town there anymore.

"There were vague statements about disease and concentration camps, and later about dispersal in various naval and military prisons, but nothing positive ever developed. Innsmouth itself was left almost depopulated, and it is even now only beginning to show signs of a sluggishly revived existence."

I'm guessing the character might have used surviving stock from those camps in her experiments. Wonder if Aquaman knows about the history there.

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	no subject endis_ni 2011-09-14 08:05 pm UTC (link)
	Well, they can dynamite Devil Reef, but that'll bring no relief... (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject endis_ni 2011-09-14 08:08 pm UTC (link)
	Hmph. That didn't go so well. Try this instead. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject proteus_lives 2011-09-14 06:11 am UTC (link)
	FOR SCIENCE! Fish-love. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject crinos 2011-09-13 09:48 pm UTC (link)
	So, according to the fish ladies bio, she turned herself into a fish woman via "Cutting edge eugneics." Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Eugenics work that way. Unless she traveled back in time and convinced her ancestors to have sex with fish. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject shanejayell 2011-09-13 09:52 pm UTC (link)
	Well, maybe the person narrating doesn't understand science? Or they meant to use 'generics' instead. Either way, we think alike. lol (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject crinos 2011-09-13 09:55 pm UTC (link)
	I don't know, I think the "Went back in time and convinced her ancestors to have sex with fish" is more interesting. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject crinos 2011-09-13 09:58 pm UTC (link)
	Also, the Creature kneeling down to put his finger on Frankenstein's nose is hilarious. But why the domino mask? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 10 comments) (Show 10 comments)

	no subject icon_uk 2011-09-13 10:00 pm UTC (link)
	To protect her secret identity of course.. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject proteus_lives 2011-09-14 06:13 am UTC (link)
	For some reason in the comicverse domino masks cause amnesia. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject kamino_neko 2011-09-13 10:07 pm UTC (link)
	It's Doctor Frankenstein, having placed his brain in a little girl body, wearing a seifuku...and the mask is the part you have issues with? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 5 comments) (Show 5 comments)

	no subject crinos 2011-09-13 10:14 pm UTC (link)
	Dude, its comics. Ultra Humanite was doing this stuff in the forties when he put his brain in a movie star... and a dinosaur.... and an Albino Gorilla. So yeah, Frankenstein in a Japanese Grade school girl doesn't really phase me. But the mask seems kind of superfluous. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject kamino_neko 2011-09-14 01:40 am UTC (link)
	So yeah, Frankenstein in a Japanese Grade school girl doesn't really phase me. I'll take 'sentences you don't want taken out of context for $400', Alex. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject crinos 2011-09-14 02:25 am UTC (link)
	seconded on that. ...Oh my God, I just realized: SHE'S GOING TO GROW UP TO BECOME FRANKEN FRAN! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject kamino_neko 2011-09-14 02:31 am UTC (link)
	Nah...Velcoro and Griffith are not nearly odd enough to be Fran's creations. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject crinos 2011-09-14 02:50 am UTC (link)
	She's still young yet. She's learning. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject bruinsfan 2011-09-13 10:47 pm UTC (link)
	My assumption is that either the writer or the artist went to see Kick-Ass more times than is healthy. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject misterbug 2011-09-14 04:49 am UTC (link)
	What, like, less than two times and more than zero? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject joasakura 2011-09-13 10:46 pm UTC (link)
	I am really glad I put this on my pull list. XD (Reply to this)

	no subject eyz 2011-09-14 09:01 am UTC (link)
	So, it's kinda like DC's take on the BPRD...? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject thatnickguy 2011-09-14 08:32 pm UTC (link)
	Yep. And oddly enough, it totally works. =D (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-09-14 02:50 pm UTC (link)
	heh... okay i'll bite... though i must admit... lil Frankie (or whoever that is) is a little creepy.... damn you DC... here! take my monies! (Reply to this)

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bystander3
2011-09-15 03:01 am UTC (link)

As a couple of other people have pointed out, the little schoolgirl in the domino mask isn't Dr. Frankenstein. That's Father Time, a character introduced in Frankenstein's Seven Soldiers miniseries. He appears with a new body every New Year (or something like that), like the New Years baby. The first time he showed up, he was black and bald, then he was white with a goatee, and now he's a little girl.

(Notice that Velcoro calls the little girl "Father" too.)

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	no subject blackruzsa 2011-09-15 12:21 pm UTC (link)
	.... I'm new. Who's Father and why is he a little girl? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject icon_uk 2011-09-15 12:58 pm UTC (link)
	Father appears to be "Father Time", one of the leaders of S.H.A.D.E. He appears to be a personality that changes host bodies through means we don't know about. he may regenerate every 12 months, or be sort of insta-reincarnated, or something more sinister. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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