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A ghostly figure arrived to steal children. Batwoman arrived to stop the creature, but the spectral kidnapper stole away with the little ones, and the heroine promised to get them back. Cut to Gotham P.D., as Detective Maggie Sawyer concludes her interview with the grieving parents







Date: 2011-09-16 04:54 pm (UTC)
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Did Bette serve in the military?

Probably not.

Was she told she couldn't fight anymore because of her orientation?

Which has any bearing on how Kate treats Bette how, exactly? The fact that Kate had to put up with (or more accurately and admirably chose NOT to put up with) the absurdity of DADT is irrelevant to her treatment of Bette as far as I can see.

I like the concept of Bette getting pointers from Kate, but not this execution of it. Bette is the more experienced hero.

Date: 2011-09-16 06:05 pm (UTC)
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"Bette is the more experienced hero."

Yeah? Well so does Barbara Gordon as batgirl, and that didn't amount to crap. Point a gun in her general direction and you can get away with just about anything. Experience doesn't count for crap these days in comics.

Date: 2011-09-16 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] runespoor
So we're judging Babs' worth as a hero on her first confrontation with a gun since she's able to walk again? Lovely. Seems like psychological trauma doesn't count for crap either.

Date: 2011-09-16 10:20 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I'm judging Babs' worth as a hero. Someone who's so eager to go fight crime yet doesn't even contemplate the notion that some bad guy could just happen to point a gun in her general direction?

But really, I question her worth as a hero when she existed in a world of incredible body enhancements, life restoration powers and body switching abilities yet doesn't want to use any of it to be able to walk again. And now with her comic, it's all "I got better!" and now she's thrown herself head long into a scenario where she's a danger to herself and others.

Soldiers, cops, anyone who has PTSD can certainly vouch for her case, but I wonder if she even tried to get any sort of professional counseling outside of just having a supportive family.

And one other thing. Unlike Babs, Kate doesn't talk to herself nearly as much. Look at the panel where she laments over Renee. Nothing is said nor thought.

Date: 2011-09-16 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] runespoor
How the hell do you know she didn't think of it? There's a difference between going through something in your mind, judging "yeah, I can handle that", and being in that situation.

So basically you're blaming Babs for decisions editorial took for her. Well, that's one possible stand to take, I guess.

Again, how do you know she didn't? (And even if she didn't - again, editorial. Or do I get to blame Alfred for not getting Bruce professional counseling when he was younger, too?)

And one other thing. Unlike Babs, Kate doesn't talk to herself nearly as much. Look at the panel where she laments over Renee. Nothing is said nor thought.
...Yes? I never said otherwise? I don't see what that has to do with the rest, but for what it's worth, yes, you're right.

Date: 2011-09-17 12:39 am (UTC)
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"How the hell do you know she didn't think of it? There's a difference between going through something in your mind, judging "yeah, I can handle that", and being in that situation."

You're right. And if there was a scene like that in the comic, I think it would have added more complexity to her situation than just being randomly stunned out of her mind that someone points a gun at her. Even a little piece of narration from her could go a long way in establishing what she's getting in to and how that moment of pause pays off. You know? A set-up.

But the comic didn't touch upon that. I'm not going to give the story credit for something it didn't put in the comic.

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