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Entry tags:char: robin/red hood/jason todd, char: speedy/arsenal/roy harper, char: starfire/koriand'r, creator: kenneth rocafort, creator: scott lobdell, title: red hood and the outlaws
So, the first issue of Red Hood and The Outlaws was... surprising.

So much so that I'm not sure what I thought of it. At all. It was very much an introductory issue, and as such it focuses mainly on who the three main characters are, and how they relate to each other. What is clear is that Roy, Jason and Kory have all had extensive changes and/or additions made to their back stories. I've posted three pages that I think illustrate this below the cut.



Some of it is good - like Roy and Jason apparently having something like a friendship...








...And some is bad. Kory now cares very little for individual humans, to the extent that she finds them completely forgettable. Seriously, she doesn't remember any of the Titans, even *Dick,* although her relationship with him is still canon. She has also seems to have lost the 'y' from the end of her name and is now called Kori. The writing and art are both extremely male gaze-y when it comes to Kory. She is depicted with a great deal of sexual agency, but the book drips with the assumption that the only people reading this are the 18-35 male bracket. I found it quite insulting.








Ok, so people who were wondering/worrying whether she might 'get with' Roy or Jason?








The obvious is somewhat subverted by the fact that she's done 'em both. Ordinarily I'd have thought that makes her a lucky lady who gets what she wants, but the rest of the book is so objectifying of her that I feel weird about it. There is potentially some interesting points to be made about her attitude to sexuality, but I think they got lost in her primary portrayal as a male fantasy-style 'nymphomaniac' - people spend an awful lot of time leering at, discussing and photographing Kory, managing to make themselves look like enormous douches in the process. Still, at least she's not being held to the usual comic book heroine standard of being sexy but not actually sexual, I guess? :/

As for the main plot (or what's foreshadowed to become the main plot), it's still very mysterious. It relates to Jason's hitherto unmentioned ties to an organisation called the All Caste. A creepy former member named Essence has come to ask for Jason's help with a string of murders connected to stolen organs, and to tell him that a female mentor of his named Ducra has been murdered. No, I have no idea what any of that means yet either.



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whitesycamore: (pic#913785)


[personal profile] whitesycamore
2011-09-21 04:58 pm UTC (link)
Yep. It's all the other baggage, not the sex itself that bothers me.

Although tbh I am completely depressed about all the slut shaming Kory is going to get for this. :(

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[personal profile] shadowpsykie
2011-09-21 05:02 pm UTC (link)
I have ALWAYS been depressed about the amount of slut shaming Kory has ALWAYS gotten... what a woman can't maintain her sexual agency and not be called a slut? when a guy can have sex with 5 differnet girls in the same issue/movie/book and he's a player? fucking double standards...

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2011-09-21 10:26 pm UTC (link)
I'm not slut shaming her, But I do feel she would have a bit more tact. A smile. A wink. Not just outright "would you like to have sex with me?".

That kind of kills the mood for one, and for two, she might realize being the 'hot chick' between two guys might spell trouble for the team dynamic? though I don't know what her overall relationship is with the outlaws so IDK...

I do like the arts.

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2011-09-21 11:21 pm UTC (link)
But I do feel she would have a bit more tact. A smile. A wink. Not just outright "would you like to have sex with me?". That kind of kills the mood for one
She's not asking you for sex, so it doesn't matter if you think it kills the mood. I wouldn't mind directneness myself :p

for two, she might realize being the 'hot chick' between two guys might spell trouble for the team dynamic?
Why is she responsible for the team dynamic? If the two guys think this might spell trouble for it; why don't they just say "no" to the offer of sex? It's not a problem for her, obviously.

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