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Greetings True Believers!

Here are a couple scans from the latest issue of this Avengers mini.

I'm conflicted about it.

But DOOM! is always enjoyable.

Enjoy!



I do love this cover.



I add a thought bubble in my version, "Yes, DOOM hits this on a regular basis."

Anyway. The Avengers and the X-Men have "Shut up! No, you shut up!" super-fight and Wanda puts the whammy on them all and transports herself and the Young Avengers to a place of safety...



But it isn't! Turns out in a TWIST! that Wanda's Psycho-outing was partially caused by Victor. Wanda came to him after her children "died" and he helped her control the "Life Force" and it didn't work out. One House of M later Doom's scouts found Wanda and brought her to him.

Wanda wants to restore the mutant race and then be rid of this extra power. Victor promises to help her do so.



Wiccan, Wanda and Doom begin their mojo but Patriot interferes and disrupts the ceremony. Big boom and Wanda gasps that all that extra power is gone. Where did it go??



Oh, we're doing Secret Wars now? Ok, just so we're clear.

Date: 2011-09-22 03:49 pm (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
Wait. Wait wait waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait.

Wait.

Is the Victor/Wanda thing something that was previously established, or new to this story?

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; because . . . . it makes a terrifying amount of sense, while at the same time makes utterly no sense.

Date: 2011-09-22 04:23 pm (UTC)
nomadicwriter: Doctor Doom and Wanda Maximoff (Doom/Wanda)
From: [personal profile] nomadicwriter
It's new to Children's Crusade; I don't think they've actually met that often in the past, though oddly enough they have a fairly civil history. Aside from their first meeting way back in Avengers #25, when Doom fakes a letter from Wanda and Pietro's "Latverian aunt" to capture the Avengers as F4-bait, the only two occasions I can think of are in Super-Villain Team-Up where Doom briefly allied with the Avengers (and then betrayed them) and Marvel Team-Up when Wanda, Spidey and Doom take on the Dark Rider together (no betrayal this time). So maybe it's not that odd that Wanda would consider him someone she could make a deal with.

But Heinberg is the first writer to take notice of how closely Wanda fits Doom's mommy issues established taste in women.

Date: 2011-09-22 10:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] outlawpoet
Doom has worked with Magneto before. And the X-men, both with positive outcomes, so Wanda may have a slightly different perspective than other Avengers.

In general Doom tends to be pretty magnanimous around pretty, powerful women. Storm and him have a pretty hilarious dinner "date" in an early Claremont comic. It goes horrible wrong of course, but you can't blame him for trying.

Date: 2011-09-23 01:47 am (UTC)
aaron_bourque: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
That's not why it doesn't make sense.

Wanda is potentially a stronger magic user than he.

That would inspire jealousy (not that Doom would call it that), which would lead to MAXIMOFF!!! rather than "ooo, Maximoff . . ."

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; of course, at scans_daily, they're the same thing . . .

Date: 2011-09-23 02:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] outlawpoet
Well, Doom's alright with acknowledging that people are better than him at specific things. He and Dr. Strange, Dracula, Morgan le Fay, The Enchantress, and Diablo have complicated, but mostly cordial relationships, and he's spoken highly of their abilities. (He even takes teachers (such as Morgan le Fay in particular, Cagliostro for another) although notably none from his own time period).

It probably would never work, for sure, but Doom is a complicated monster. The last three people in the world he ever gave a damn about were his parents, and Valeria. His dad, Werner is why Gypsies are given sanctuary in Latveria, and he takes care of Latverians at all. His mother is why he studies magic, and Valeria is why he'll eventually always be alone.

But Wanda is uniquely positioned to appeal to Doom. Not only is she a powerful resource, but she was raised by the Maximoffs, a Romani family. How could Doom spend time with her, and not remember the songs of his childhood? His mother's magic, his father's kumpania, she's a link to the last good part of his life.

well said

Date: 2011-09-23 10:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jazzypom
Wanda is uniquely positioned to appeal to Doom. Not only is she a powerful resource, but she was raised by the Maximoffs, a Romani family. How could Doom spend time with her, and not remember the songs of his childhood? His mother's magic, his father's kumpania, she's a link to the last good part of his life.

This, right there.

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