Date: 2011-09-23 08:07 am (UTC)
magus_69: (pic#370600)
From: [personal profile] magus_69
I'm intrigued that this book and Nightwing have the same plotline running through them. Are we having a Bat Family Crossover already?

Also, I'm having a few reservations about the character models. The looks are fine, but Dick and Tim are not that short, and I don't see Damian wearing sneakers to a formal event.

Date: 2011-09-23 12:51 pm (UTC)
star_of_airdrie: (killyou)
From: [personal profile] star_of_airdrie
'Where are my opera slippers Alfred! 'tt! AND DO YOU CALL THIS A PROPER SHINE ON THESE!!! tt! Ingrates, peasants....

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Date: 2011-09-23 03:10 pm (UTC)
coldfiredragon: (Default)
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It wouldn't surprise me if we were especially considering that the writers for Batman and Nightwing are Snyder and Higgins. Those two worked on 'Gates of Gotham' together all summer. It makes sense to me that they are still writing in close tandem.

Honestly I kinda hope that this is the same thing honestly! I like the idea of books playing closely together but not necessarily crossing over in every aspect. It makes things feel like they are in the same universe which is what DC is trying to do isn't it?

Date: 2011-09-24 05:37 am (UTC)
junipepper: (jumplines)
From: [personal profile] junipepper
Yeah, that's a bad panel. "Look! It's Nanowing and Little Red Robin..."

Date: 2011-09-23 08:14 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Dick seems short. Otherwise not bad.

Date: 2011-09-23 05:58 pm (UTC)
halloweenjack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
Well, it's girth that really matters.

...what?

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Date: 2011-09-23 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] wtfomfg2
I know I should be thinking about the whole "Dick Grayson: Murderer" thing, but whatever. The batboys are still brothers!

Date: 2011-09-23 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] runespoor
This hits several of my Gotham/Batman narrative kinks, so dayum. (And also, "day off in Arkham GOD BRUCE." :D)

On the other hand, the characters don't look like themselves and that familial little scene is exactly what I hate so much about the Batfam these days.

Date: 2011-09-23 08:24 am (UTC)
autohobbs: (Sick)
From: [personal profile] autohobbs
If that's how Riddles looks now, I'm going to cry.

Date: 2011-09-23 08:35 am (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
Word. No WAY does Eddie Nygma put a logo on himself that can only be seen WHEN BATMAN PUNCHES HIM.

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Date: 2011-09-23 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] omgwtflolbbqbye
I think the Bat-boys all looked about 5 to 10 years year younger than they should with the faces they gave them save for Damian.

And the Lincoln character they introduced in the party scene actually looked more like Bruce Wayne than Bruce did; out of context I would have though Bruce was Dick and Lincoln was Bruce.

Date: 2011-09-23 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] runespoor
Yeah. Bruce doesn't look like he's 35.

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Date: 2011-09-23 09:57 am (UTC)
celestialchild: Noriko Readman from Read or Die (Noriko Readman)
From: [personal profile] celestialchild
Who shrunk Dick?

But the artist has Damian spot on.

Date: 2011-09-23 10:27 am (UTC)
bewareofgeek: (Crazy)
From: [personal profile] bewareofgeek
Maybe it was just cold that day....

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Date: 2011-09-23 10:38 am (UTC)
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I like the interactions. Still as fun as I remember. Interesting too.

Date: 2011-09-23 10:46 am (UTC)
jelly_ace: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jelly_ace
They all seem de-aged...but I'm kinda digging the art. Especially that one panel where they're tuxedoed up.

Date: 2011-09-23 03:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfiredragon
They were all de-aged. Kyle Higgins confirmed on his twitter that Dick's only 21 now... so I assume all the other Bat boys followed suit and were aged back a bit. I thought I heard somewhere else as well that Damian's only 10.

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Date: 2011-09-23 12:37 pm (UTC)
aeka: Art by Adam Hughes (Huntress [Helena Wayne]:)
From: [personal profile] aeka
Why is Bruce 7 feet tall while Dick and Tim look like they're about 5' something? Other than that I really like the art in this issue.

Date: 2011-09-24 03:17 pm (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
He also runs into a guy taller than him a few pages in, so wrap your head around that. :P

Date: 2011-09-23 12:41 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Mentioning the lack of transition between Dick as Batman and Dick as Nightwing is redundant, as I've mentioned that elsewhere.

Bruce needing HUD contacts for social interactions doesn't work for me, and actually puts me off the same way as relying on Oracle to do detective work did. Bruce shouldn't need prompts, he KNOWS this stuff, it's part of what makes him Batman.

Unimpressed by the classic rogue redesigns, especially Two-Face and the Riddler.

Nice family moments. Interesting that Alfred has a higher security clearance than Dick or Tim, but not too jarring.

The next issue had better have Bruce dismissing this as a frame up job IMMEDIATELY, because if Batman can't implicitly trust his kids, this is back to the old Batprat I haven't missed.

Date: 2011-09-23 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] runespoor
I urge you to embrace that redundancy. Don't leave me alone in my grumbling! On that subject, I think I haven't filed in my usual complaint of I-want-Cass-DC on this post, so I shall take that opportunity to do so.

relying on Oracle to do detective work did. Bruce shouldn't need prompts
It's not needing prompts, it's needing time. Delegating what he can lets him solve the crime faster, thus go on to the next unsolved crime. No shortage of that in Gotham.

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Date: 2011-09-23 01:01 pm (UTC)
abriel: (pic#821032)
From: [personal profile] abriel
Dick and Tim both look far too young. It really bugs me. Dick is a grown man and Tim is in his very late teens. On that page Tim looks barely older than Damian and Dick looks like he's all of thirteen.

Other than that this was a good issue.

Date: 2011-09-23 03:53 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Tim looks okay. but i agree that Dick looks too young. even in his series he looks a good deal older

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Date: 2011-09-23 01:12 pm (UTC)
mullon: (Old Bruce)
From: [personal profile] mullon
I like this so far, but maybe I'm just happy to see Batman back to doing normal Batman stuff with the Robins. And Damien looks cute in his red sneakers; it's nice to see someone write him like he's a kid in ways besides being a little snot-nosed asshole.

Date: 2011-09-23 02:49 pm (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
Nightwing's a murderer?

What a Dick move.

Date: 2011-09-23 04:10 pm (UTC)
dancesontrains: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dancesontrains
*loud groans*

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Date: 2011-09-23 03:14 pm (UTC)
midnightvoyager: (Default)
From: [personal profile] midnightvoyager
Oh no, Dick might be a murderer! That would be so terr-

*sees Damien*

Oh. Well, carry on then.

Date: 2011-09-23 03:51 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
i would just like you to know that i just nearly spit out my coffee onto my computer, and had to nearly choke my self to prevent that.... i hope you are happy

Date: 2011-09-23 03:48 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
hmmm Dick looks a lot younger here than in his series....

Date: 2011-09-23 04:58 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
Recalling Capullo from Quasar, he draws younger than Eddy Barrows. (Eddy's Teen Titans did NOT look like teens!)

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Date: 2011-09-23 05:00 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
It occurred to me that pre-Flashpoint Selina might have been Bruce's date, or at least in attendance. I miss her.

Date: 2011-09-23 05:09 pm (UTC)
arbre_rieur: (Default)
From: [personal profile] arbre_rieur
Great writing, but I really don't like the art. Not because the characters look too young or off-model or anything else others are saying, but simply because I don't at all care for this angular, scratchy style.

Date: 2011-09-23 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I LOVE the art. It feels like a dirtier version of B:TAS. :D

Date: 2011-09-23 07:58 pm (UTC)
harpers_child: my favorite place (square one)
From: [personal profile] harpers_child
All I've gotten out of this is ROBINS! SO MANY ROBINS! and Bruce looking pleased with himself.

Damian is playing to a stereotype with his shoes rather than his personal tastes. At first glance I thought they were a red version of his Robin boots.

Date: 2011-09-24 05:56 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
All I've gotten out of this is ROBINS! SO MANY ROBINS!


Too Many
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Date: 2011-09-23 09:20 pm (UTC)
maxisanacorn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] maxisanacorn
I don't mind the heights here.

Dick is supposed to be 5'9 to 5'10 tops. That's not THAT tall. He's an acrobat, he should sorta squat anyway. He's only 21 so he can look quite youthful.

Tim is only 5'6-5'7, he's always been atypical and SHORT. It was something they've constantly jabbed about in Robin, and he's only 16 post reboot (from 17 where he was before) so it should still apply.

Damian can be anywhere from 4'8-5'0 I think...

I guess Cass has been retconed into not being an adopted daughter.

Date: 2011-09-23 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
If they have all the Robins, they don't have to take it out. Considering how relatively soon she came in, you could keep her about the same age as she was and have it that she's travelling the world as an excuse why she isn't around often.

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Date: 2011-09-24 12:40 am (UTC)
detective_deathman08: (Default)
From: [personal profile] detective_deathman08
I really want to know how they are handling Tim Drakes parents.

Date: 2011-09-24 05:57 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Six to a coffin is traditional, isn't it?

Date: 2011-09-24 03:19 pm (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
Just occurred to me that Alfred's face in the last panel isn't a look of worry, or fear, or even disappointment.

He's thinking "Oh Christ, not this again."

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