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The last of the four new Ultimate books launched this last week. by Nick Spencer and Paco Medina, it continues with the status quo post-Ultimatum where Magneto's attack has set human/mutant relations back to the dark ages.

It also builds on Loeb's Ultimate X book, using Ultimate Jean Grey Karen Grant and Wolverine's son, and also using the trio of Iceman, Johnny Storm and Kitty Pryde following on from Death of Spider-man.

It's pretty good and for the first time in a while, a comic shocked me. I'll put out a warning for implied gore and violence as well as familial violence.

The woman with the black hair is Ultimate Jean Grey Karen Grant. She's doing the Xavier thing of dropping in on a young mutant whose power has just manifested to offer them a place at her school "concern, set up to help kids". The woman with the red hair is Miss Pleasant, whose daughter is a mutant, and has videoed her using her powers.



At which point I get a really bad feeling in my stomach.


Wow. That's some really good lettering. Really good.
And then dad comes downstairs with a rifle and a Magneto-esque helmet with WW solutions written on it.


p.s. On the last page of Ultimate Hawkeye 2..., who are Fury's X-Men? I recognise the blonde as being Ultimate Tabitha Smith, but I'm stuck for everybody else.

Date: 2011-09-24 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
You know, if you were going to do that, wouldn't you, you know, not let the person who wants to help your daughter come in in the first place?

Also, while I'll admit I don't quite remember Jean's Karen's power-set, if she has both telekenesis AND telepathy, but shouldn't she have felt the girl's distress?

Date: 2011-09-24 09:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blake_reitz
Well, the girl was taking a nap. Doubtful she knew.

Date: 2011-09-24 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Hmm. Fair enough. I took that as the mom lying.

Date: 2011-09-24 09:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blake_reitz
It does raise the question of why she didn't read that the mom knew her husband was upstairs with a rifle.

Date: 2011-09-24 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Yeah, it kinda reads as "rule of dumb" to make for the most traumatic scene possible. It might work better if, say, Jean Karen is talking to this mother who's clearly agitated and trying to hide it and just as she figured out what was going on, she catches the father trying to carry the daughter away. The girl was dead before Jean (fuck it I'll just say Jean) ever had a chance to save her.

Date: 2011-09-24 10:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Or why she didn't sense the "About to kill my daughter" vibes from the father

Date: 2011-09-24 10:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] biod
A PLANNED FOR ER-ROR!

Date: 2011-09-25 01:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] darkblade
He's where a Magneto type helmet, probably to justify that.

Date: 2011-09-26 02:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Ah, so it's sort of like a tin foil hat, but it WORKS!

Date: 2011-09-24 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Possibly she was not thinking about it? Repressing it so to speak?

Date: 2011-09-26 02:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I would have thought that still might be a red flag to a telepath. It'd be like trying not to think about pink elephants when told not to.

Date: 2011-09-25 12:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fifthie
IDK where ultimate X-men is in regard to this cause god knows Ultimate Marvel characters don't give a fuck and I mean it's not like the 616 X-Men give a shit about any principles anymore but at least in the old days it was a point that Jean/Professor X didn't go pickin' thoughts out of people's minds without an invitation.

Date: 2011-09-25 06:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Xavier was always a prick in Ultimate X-Men. Right in the first story, Millar had him trying to manipulate Scott into staying at the mansion by tinkering with his brain.

Jean, from what I recall, was always a touch more respectable unless she was up against a villain.

Date: 2011-09-25 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I bought the first issue, I don't remember that.

Date: 2011-09-25 03:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Toward the end of the first arc, Logan seduced Jean and Scott saw them. He got ready to leave, and in conversation with Xavier, specified he knew the Professor was doing something to his mind. Xavier responded that he was, and had done something I can't quite recall, but Scott was about to 'say words he couldn't possibly mean'.

It's the UXM issue before Scott works with the Brotherhood in the Savage Land.

Date: 2011-09-25 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
okay, I was thinking issue not arc.

The first issue seemed more like a one and done with build to later plot points than a single story.

Date: 2011-09-24 10:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Ultimate Liz Allen (Firestar), Ultimat Jean Grey, and the new Ultimate Angel are the X-kids in Hawkeye 2.

Date: 2011-09-24 10:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
None in particular, other than them being core members of Ultimate X and that I read it. The new Angel is definite. I suppose the other two could be any black haired and blonde haired gals but Jean/Karen and Liz are the only ones I recall from Ultimate X.

Date: 2011-09-25 06:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] timgueugen
How could Barbara Gordon let someone kill her daughter?
(Surely I'm not the only one thinking Mrs. Pleasant looks like her?)

Date: 2011-09-25 06:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Nope, not at all.

Date: 2011-09-25 06:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bariman
Same here. I'm looking at the first posted panel and thinking, "So Babs and Helena are watching a video of a kid with powers. Are they starting a Young Birds of Prey team? I'd read it."

Date: 2011-09-26 02:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Are they starting a Young Birds of Prey team?

Fledglings of Fury?

Eggs of Excellence?

Date: 2011-09-26 03:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
hatchlings of hope :D

Date: 2011-09-29 01:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bariman
Flock of Freedom?

Date: 2011-09-25 02:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] werehawk
"It also builds on Loeb's Ultimate X book, using Ultimate Jean Grey (Karen Grant) and Wolverine's son, and also using the trio of Iceman, Johnny Storm and Kitty Pryde following on from Death of Spider-man."

Um, was there a big reveal that Jimmie Hudson's mom is Jean Grey (though I don't know how that would work age-wise, or did you mean "Jean Grey, Wolverine's son, and also..."

Date: 2011-09-25 06:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kirke_novak
What's the status of the Ultimate Magneto? The last time i saw him, he killed Charles and that was also the last time I toughed an Ultimate title. Is he alive? I'm asking because I've always longed for a story when Magneto has to face the fact that human hate is fueld by him.

Date: 2011-09-25 07:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] biod
He was killed by Cyclops before Cyclops himself got his head blown off in the same issue.
Ultimatum was kind of like that.

Date: 2011-09-26 02:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] timgueugen
In other words lazily written with questionable shock value scenes instead of plot.

Date: 2011-09-26 03:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
the first maybe five dissembowleings, canabalistic scenarios and beheadings were shocking... everything after that was just "meh"

Date: 2011-09-26 03:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
do you hae the last page of Ultimate Hawk Man 2? it might be helpful

Date: 2011-09-26 06:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
i mean a scan of it. i havn't read it, but if i was able to see it i might be able to tell who the others are.

Date: 2011-09-26 08:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wonderwomanhero
I still think Psylocke is alive. Just MIA.

I don't get it. So the mom sent the dad up to kill the girl?

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