WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN??

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Tom Brevoort has a Formspring and he's actually pretty good at answering questions.

In his most recent batch of replies, he tackled things like the recent CATWOMAN/STARFIRE controversy and why Gambit isn't invited to more poker games.














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Comments

[abriel]

See I hear that accusation with Ellis's run a lot and I have read through that run multiple times and frankly I don't see where he messed up her character there. Really the only thing he messed up big on was making up the heated rivalry between her and Songbird, who happens to be another one of my favorites. Before Ellis Karla and Mel never really hated each other all that much...oh Karla would push Mel's buttons by jabbing at her "white trash" past and making snide remarks about how she would sleep with anyone and Mel didn't really trust Karla but the two of them weren't arch-rivals...they were just there. Ellis changed that.

But that was the only thing. Far as I can see Karla was still pretty crafty, manipulative, and smart under his pen. About the only thing I could see that his critics might be right on is the fact that Ellis basically pushed Karla over the fence into being pretty much pure villain, as opposed to before when she really was riding the fence.

Even before Ellis though Karla was a pretty sexual character. She did strip naked in front of Hawkeye in the training room and then seduced the Counter-Earth version of Lloyd Bloch. I believe both those times were under Nicieza's pen, the guy who is revered among the hardcore Thunderbolts fanboys as the only true Tbolts writer.

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I believe both those times were under Nicieza's pen, the guy who is revered among the hardcore Thunderbolts fanboys as the only true Tbolts writer.

Really? Not Kurt Busiek, who CREATED the concept of the Thunderbolts? That's.... sad more than anything.

[abriel]

Yep, really. I almost never heard Busiek's name brought up in discussions of the 'Bolts. It's always Fabian's.

[salinea]

I think I've heard more of Busiek in positive fashion myself. Possibly one of those "it depends where" kind of things.

[salinea]

I thought Moonstone was manipulative, but also portrayed as... not as smart as she thinks she is in that run. Kind of getting way over her head in term of the team leadership.

[abriel]

She wasn't a good leader because she always looked for fast and easy fixes rather than focusing on the big picture. That and she didn't care. She liked being leader more for the power and the prestige, not to mention the hefty paycheck Osborn was giving her for holding the position. When it came to doing a good job though she just didn't give a shit. Karla was quite self-centered as she's always been.

Now when Bendis got ahold of her, all that flew out the window and she lost all that intelligence and manipulation. I look at all the missed opportunities where Karla's skills at being manipulative could have been put to good use...Molecule Man for instance. Here is this insane, incredibly powerful guy and she doesn't try to manipulate him? Or Sentry for that matter? And what about when Ares hit on her? Now there would have been an opportunity to use her sexuality as a good manipulation tool considering how key Ares was to Osborn's plans at the time. Instead she sleeps with Bullseye because he dresses like her ex? That made her look hardup and pathetic, made all the worse by the fact that in Ellis's run she couldn't stand Bullseye. She thought he was a disgusting creep and he even tried to kill her once. I mean, really.