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Tom Brevoort has a Formspring and he's actually pretty good at answering questions.

In his most recent batch of replies, he tackled things like the recent CATWOMAN/STARFIRE controversy and why Gambit isn't invited to more poker games.

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Date: 2011-10-04 08:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Karla is, first and foremost a manipulator, she'll use whatever technique she deems necessary to give herself the upper hand in any situation and has few scruples.

When she was a therapist, we saw her phone up a patient who was having suspicions about her husband, and using a fake voice, encouraged the very suspicions she was supposed to be treating, so she could keep the lucrative patient a while longer, and she DID manage to psyche the original Moonstone into actively rejecting the gemstone which gave him his powers, which she promptly grabbed and absorbed herself, giving her the Moonstone powers.

In the Busiek Thunderbolts run she could be seen playing characters off against each other ALL the time, and made sure that she became Jolt's best friend in the group before anyone else could, since she was a wild card, and if there was going to be a wild card, she wanted to be the one she'd turn to for guidance.

There's an awesome moment where she's trying to get the now biomechanical Techno (Fixer as was) to join her against Zemo. She tries reason and argument and then you can all but HEAR her shift gears as she poses suggestively and tries to play on his libido. It SHOULD be sexy (and perhaps it was to some), but it's such a calculated move that it's clear she's entirely in control.

Whilst I have no doubt she would use sex as a manipulation technique if it suited her*, it would be one she would only use in certain circumstances and she had no higher expectations of those she was attempting to influence. Perhaps with the Dark Avengers, who were hardly an intellectual bunch she decided to go for the most basic primal urges of the team, though I would have expected more... variety from her as she is a VERY smart woman.

* To contrast with her relationship with Hawkeye for example, which was very much "real" rather than a power game, which made it rather sweet.

Date: 2011-10-04 09:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] salinea
Great analysis!!

Date: 2011-10-04 09:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
Perhaps with the Dark Avengers, who were hardly an intellectual bunch she decided to go for the most basic primal urges of the team, though I would have expected more... variety from her as she is a VERY smart woman.

Why couldn't she go for a manipulation tactic that's both effective and enjoyable for her?

Very smart women like to have fun too.

I should know. :D

Date: 2011-10-04 10:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
See I don't think she necessarily found it fun (at least not in all cases, I mean to say, Gargan?), just... tactically convenient.

Also, because using exactly the same approach with everyone on the team seems short sighted. It would highlight her intelligence and skills if she had found OTHER weakpoints, like discovering that, say, Sentry had a thing for old comicbooks, or Daken has a petit-point collection to die for.

Date: 2011-10-04 10:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
Now might be a good time to pint out that I'm pretty hazy on who exactly the Dark Avengers are/were (Marvel comics? What are those?) I just assumed most of them were hot, because you know, superheroes. although wait - the Dark Avengers are actually super *villains,* aren't they? OK then, you may have a point.

Also, because using exactly the same approach with everyone on the team seems short sighted. It would highlight her intelligence and skills if she had found OTHER weakpoints, like discovering that, say, Sentry had a thing for old comicbooks, or Daken has a petit-point collection to die for.

It's Daken - fuck the petit-point collection. If she decided to limit herself to one dude from the team then she pretty much has to get on that. He'd be more fun than a barrel of particularly sexy monkeys, you know it.

I think Daken's weakness is sipping tea from delicate china cups, anyway. That and cashmere scarves.

Date: 2011-10-04 10:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] salinea
Moonstone definitly slept with Noh-Var (who is a white haired pretty boy, natch), Bullseye (who personality asides isn't ugly) - can't ever remember if she actually slept with Daken (thought she tried, hit on him in the tea house while he wore that cashmere scarf and Daken got contrarian on her - probably jealous she'd succeeded on sleeping with Bullseye and he hadn't yet). I don't think she slept with Ares either (a matter of taste, I guess...), Sentry (definitely not ugly) & Gargan (much less pretty, but you can't diss tentacles, can you?)

Date: 2011-10-05 12:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] abriel
No, she basically turned up her nose at Ares (which still bugs me...he was a freaking god for crying outloud, and like I said it would have been a great opportunity to be manipulative), and I think she latched onto Gargan mainly to spurn Daken whom she was pissed off at at the time.

Date: 2011-10-05 12:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
The petit-point was a slight riff on a rather great moment in James Robinson's Starman run when, after the snake-based villain Copperhead has been hired by a villain, we see him take a little time out during his mission to pursue his hobby, which it turns out is collecting (of all things) vintage transistor radios. We see him chatting very knowledgeably and amiably in a couple of shops, about the pieces he's picked up here and there. He deals politely with a dealer who plays fair, but when another dealer tries to cheat him... well, copperheads ARE lethally poisonous.

Date: 2011-10-05 11:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I just assumed most of them were hot, because you know, superheroes. although wait - the Dark Avengers are actually super *villains,* aren't they? OK then, you may have a point.

Yeah, that as my logic there, either she doesn't know where they've been, or in some cases worse yet DOES know, and either way may feel like she wants to scrub her skin raw with steel wool to feel remotely clean again.

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