scans_daily: Batman And Robin #2

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@ 2011-10-12 04:40 pm UTC

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char: batman/bruce wayne, char: robin/damian wayne, creator: patrick gleason, creator: peter j. tomasi, title: batman and robin

Batman And Robin #2

If all else fails buy a dog.

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darkknightjrk
2011-10-13 12:10 am UTC (link)

Some different thoughts--

* Anyone else think Damian looked a little like a chipmunk in the first panel of the first scan?

* If it was in his nature to have anything besides a straight poker face, I'm certain Alfred would have face-palmed right there.

* But at least Bruce tries to make up for it and tells Damian good job. :)

* Damian breaking that bat...yeah, he definitely has more issues going on than before.

* So Bruce is buying a great da--OH MY GOD YES IT'S ACE THE BAT-HOUND SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE--

* Ducard here doesn't sound like the French detective that he was in the comics. Maybe they're going for a Begins approach with Bruce's training?

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coldfiredragon
2011-10-13 12:32 am UTC (link)

In that first panel of the first scan Damian looks like he's getting hit in the face by something swinging from the ceiling and the 'O' face means it hurts like hell!

Alfred would so have face-palmed but that would be unbecoming of him.

Agreed! Bruce is trying. He's got odd ways of showing it but he definitely is.

Damian and the Bat... *shakes head* That was unnecessary and wow... I'm glad Alfred SAW him do it. (not shown in the above scans but Alfred did see it he didn't say anything to Damian but the deep kinda heart broken frown that's on his face proves he did)

ACE!!!!!!!!!! SQUEEEEEEEE!

We'll see how Ducard plays out. Some changes aren't too bad.

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	no subject jetblack927 2011-10-13 12:31 am UTC (link)
	I squeeed too when I saw Ace, but then I said....NO! It's too soon, no way would he'd be around when bruce is 80 if he brought him now.... But, meh, it's DC, it doesn't have to make sense.... (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-10-13 12:36 am UTC (link)
	eh, superhero comics... plus, i think it has been established that Beyond is only a POSSIBLE future... especially now that the reboot happened (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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	no subject turtlefu 2011-10-13 01:08 am UTC (link)
	I kind of have issue with Batman not "properly" praising Damien. I'm pretty sure Bruce praised Dick and Tim (and probably Jason at some point). Are we supposed to believe post-reboot Bruce has no idea how to be a parent despite being one 3 different times? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 20 comments) (Show 20 comments)

	no subject likeaminx 2011-10-13 01:09 am UTC (link)
	Apparently! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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	no subject likeaminx 2011-10-13 01:16 am UTC (link)
	THAT'S NOT ACE ACE WAS A GREAT DANE MIX GOSH I don't actually care THAT much but I always get kinda happy when a mix breed is around instead of a purebreed. BUT I guess that will make it easy to have Ace be the 'Bat Hound' because hey! He's just a regular Great Dane! (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject icon_uk 2011-10-13 03:40 pm UTC (link)
	He's Scooby Dark, the little known grim avenging member of the Scooby family. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject coldfiredragon 2011-10-13 01:54 am UTC (link)
	I will say this here and now. If Bruce goes to all the trouble of trying to get Ace for Damian to bound with and the writer just turns around and has Damian hurt Ace I will be beyond livid. (Reply to this)

	no subject thefiretonight 2011-10-13 02:13 am UTC (link)
	Somewhere another Robin is pouting and thinking that it's not fair Bruce never bought HIM a dog and therefore that means he never loved him. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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icon_uk
2011-10-13 09:10 am UTC (link)

But Dick had Tim and Damian to play with: in some respects little brothers are better than dogs because you can mess with their heads.

Dick would have had Golden Age Ace, Tim had modern age Ace (The one no one ever mentions any more which makes Icon_UK sad), surely there weren't any other important Robins?

Icon_UK innocently whistles as he starts to walk away then runs like hell for the exit whilst he still has kneecaps!

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	no subject mullon 2011-10-13 02:50 am UTC (link)
	I keep thinking that thing is hitting him in the eye. It's hilarious! (Reply to this)

	no subject auggie18 2011-10-13 03:42 am UTC (link)
	In all fairness, having bats whiz by your head all the time would be really annoying. Plus, that cave would be super covered in poop. (Reply to this)

	no subject haisai_andagii 2011-10-13 04:05 am UTC (link)
	You know what Damian never did under Grayson's watch? Snap an innocent animals neck. And I'm not liking the nature v. nurture rant that Bruce was having either. It should be nurture v. nurture. Talia doesn't have an "evil kid." Evil isn't genetic. Damian was screwed up by his parents, their lifestyles and their poor life choices (understatement). (Reply to this)

	no subject katya 2011-10-13 04:16 am UTC (link)
	I didn't read any of the run with Dick in the batsuit and Damian as Robin, so this was basically my first introduction to the kid (#1 sold out at my LCS last week so I got them both today) and I must say so far... not a Damian fan. He's a dick. A dick who kills small animals. That's a good sign. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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coldfiredragon
2011-10-13 10:20 am UTC (link)

Damian was arrogant in his earlier appearances but he wasn't like THIS! He didn't kill animals and he had some good qualities that were buried initially but really started to show as the series progressed and he and Dick bonded some.

I just think he really doesn't know how to interact with Bruce yet, and that Bruce has no clue how to help him learn to interact. Hopefully this will get better with each issue and each of them will mellow and mold and start to work like a real team.

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	no subject littlepunkryo 2011-10-13 04:26 am UTC (link)
	I liked most of this, with one part specifically coming to mind that I didn't really like: if Bruce died, Damian would still have Dick. Who was doing a pretty good job raising Damian before. I don't think it was out of character for Bruce to say or anything but it bugged me. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject junipepper 2011-10-13 05:08 am UTC (link)
	Yes. What's irritating is, Dick was doing a very good job with Damien and had really made a lot of progress with him. Now the whole Batman!Dick/Robin!Damien thing is still in continuity, but apparently all the character development is out the window. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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runespoor
2011-10-13 07:16 am UTC (link)

The exchange about praise strikes me as very right for Bruce. Well-written Bruce, imo, wouldn't praise someone by saying "I'm poud of you", because to him his being proud is not the important thing; he'd rather turn the phrase so that his opinion was removed, so that it would seem to be an objective, impartial truth.

I also like that even though he doesn't entirely get why Alfred's unhappy with his praise (that makes two of us), he proceeds to listen to Alfred's advice.

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	no subject eyz 2011-10-13 07:34 am UTC (link)
	I kinda miss the interaction between Dick & Damian over this... And Bruce seems to regard his son as he was some kinda lab rat... it was much more natural and fun with the D&D dynamic duo! Oh, and is that a return of ACE?? squeeeeeeeeee~ (Reply to this)

	no subject sinisterlink 2011-10-13 08:02 am UTC (link)
	Bruce, you better not let Damian ANYWHERE near that dog. Lord, that kid needs massive amounts of therapy. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject starwolf_oakley 2011-10-13 01:15 pm UTC (link)
	Well, Bruce never got any therapy and he turned out all right. Wait... (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject espanolbot 2011-10-13 08:03 am UTC (link)
	Hrrm, if your concern is over Batman's method of crime fighting, vigilante guy, murdering other crime fighters doesn't exactly grant you moral superiority in this context. (Reply to this)

	no subject mrstatham 2011-10-13 08:09 am UTC (link)
	So it's about three steps forward for Bruce, finally letting go of MYPARENTSAREDEAAAAAAD, but about ten steps back for Damien. Way to go, Tomasi. (Reply to this)

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drexer
2011-10-13 09:04 am UTC (link)

Did they just confirmed that they killed the Russian Batman? I mean, I saw the preview the first issue but I expected that was just a bait and switch because that was a really crappy thing to do with the concept of Batman Inc.

Really mature way to establish a villain, by introducing a character that might be interesting and killing him right off.

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	no subject icon_uk 2011-10-13 09:19 am UTC (link)
	The Russian Robin will take over from him? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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icon_uk
2011-10-13 09:26 am UTC (link)

Killing small animals for no apparent reason... isn't that how serial killers tend to start out? Not good.

I agree with the general comments that after raising three Robins, Bruce's parenting skills would NOT be this poor.

I can see Damian's moodiness perhaps resulting from his seeming abandonment (And that STILL needs to be addressed) by the one person who actually gave him unconditional affection and support, but he might come around given time.

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	no subject kirke_novak 2011-10-13 10:49 am UTC (link)
	Bruce is a Vulcan. (Reply to this)

	no subject kagome654 2011-10-13 01:46 pm UTC (link)
	...I don't like it. (Reply to this)

	no subject ar_feiniel 2011-10-13 03:00 pm UTC (link)
	So, am I not supposed to be majorly creeped out by Damian casually killing a bat in the end? I'm not sure what this comic is trying to tell me. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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coldfiredragon
2011-10-13 08:53 pm UTC (link)

The book on the whole was trying to show how Bruce is attempting to be a good father and how he thinks on some levels that he is making progress with Damian. Damian doesn't catch and kill the Bat until Bruce has already gone upstairs for the night. Its meant to prove that Bruce isn't making the progress Bruce thinks he is and it illustrates just how troubled Damian really is.

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	no subject bradygirl_12 2011-10-13 03:53 pm UTC (link)
	Ugh, Damian was always unlikeable before but showed glimmers of humanity before the Reboot. Now he's killed a small animal? That's serial killer start-up time. He doesn't just have serious issues, he's sociopathic. (Reply to this)

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brain_floss
2011-10-18 07:29 pm UTC (link)

Damian's emotionally stunted, but he grew a lot during his time with Dick, Steph, Alfred, he even warmed up to Tim a bit..... then the one person he most expect approval from & bonding moment with the most treated him coldly. Bruce's cold treatment to him, tortured Damian who tends to bury his real feeling inside then lashed out his bottled up silent anger by crushing the noisy bat (relating it to Batman who rejects him).
This is actually a good writing from Damian's reaction, considering his personality, but this Bruce's character kinda suffer there to pull that kind of reaction from Damian, he's being written as a bad father mode again. Sigh. This is really like, one step forward on both of them before, then in here it's 3 steps back.

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