Date: 2011-10-13 04:41 am (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
Something that struck me while reading this issue, is there an implication that Babs herself doesn't know how she got the use of her legs back? The "miracle" talk at first seemed like standard gratitude for a cure, but adding the bit about "why me?" and hesitation to ask questions about it makes me wonder if she's as in the dark as the rest of us.

What do you all think? Am I reading too much into this? It seems like a Gail thing to do, story-wise, especially if the real story comes with extra complications.

Date: 2011-10-13 05:11 am (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
I think it's just a desire on the part of the writer to string the audience along, as, despite DC's protestations to the contrary, every book appears to be padded so as to be collectable in a standard trade. Thus, Babs seems clueless as to why she suddenly regained her mobility. The problem is not so much that we don't know any more about that than she does (though for some readers it is of paramount importance), but that we have no sense of where she stands in the timeline of the Batbooks, which don't seem to have been very much affected by the reboot. For example, Babs researches in a library in this issue. Not at home with her own resources, but also not in her office at the library. In fact, we learn more about the obligatory quirky roommate in this issue than we do the title character. (And WHY would Babs get a roommate after what happened in TKJ?! THE dumbest idea ever!)

Date: 2011-10-13 02:45 pm (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
Well, stringing along isn't enough to keep me on the title. As I've said before, I'm giving it three issues, so if we're not getting something more by next month, I'll be off the title and just following it via scans here.

Date: 2011-10-13 03:48 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
I agree. I'm probably dropping as well, but for the reasons I stated. I cannot accept the behavior of the title character as being 'in character', which I don;'t see changing without a change in writers.I have zero interest in how the mobility came about, so am not sticking around for that.(YMMV, of course).

Date: 2011-10-13 04:01 pm (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
I see where you're coming from with that. My trouble is, I'm not really getting a character out of her at all. Most of what we see is her being reactive, largely being led around by the villain. There's little I can point to and say "Babs".

I'm not that interested in sticking with a character who's essentially a cipher (no offense to [personal profile] icon_uk).

Date: 2011-10-13 04:21 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
ITA about her being led around by the villain! What would have sold me on BabsBats would have been a combination of her smarts and planning with being able to implement without reliance on a third party! She should be as good as, if not better than, some of the more reactive members of the Bat Clan. And, if you're going to keep TKJ in continuity, at LEAST show us a character who's learned from the experience! Babs' personal victimhood, while I dislike it, separates her from the Bat Clan, and should give us a careful, meticulous planner, not what we see here. And then there's the stupidity of having a roommate! A roommate she doesn't know! Pre-Flashpoint Babs would have her history and pin numbers already!

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