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So Miles' best friend Ganke wants him to test out his new powers, but Miles is still reluctant. Fate pushes his hand when a nearby building is on fire.

Later, however, his schoolmates are called into the gymnasium for a drill...there's a superhero war going on the Queensboro bridge. (They're in their pajamas because it's an academy where they stay over the week)

Date: 2011-10-15 06:30 pm (UTC)
rainspirit: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rainspirit
Oh man, poor Miles. :(

Buying this like right now.

Date: 2011-10-15 06:48 pm (UTC)
kusonaga: (God)
From: [personal profile] kusonaga
Good stuff.

Date: 2011-10-15 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Looks good, but...

Miles' friend there is a dick in that last page. Looking right at Miles with a disappointed face that Miles didn't put on some half-assed costume the second he finds out Spider-Man may or may not be dead. Yeesh. Kinda hoping he's the Uncle Ben in this situation right now.

Date: 2011-10-15 09:45 pm (UTC)
drmcninja: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drmcninja
I don't think that's what its supposed to be. I think thats just terrible choice in facial expression, not condescending or disappointing. I'm not sure what it is, but I would be surprised if it was that.

Date: 2011-10-15 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Probably is--Pachelli's been KILLING it, but even she can fall to error--but still, what a dick expression on that little boy's face.

Date: 2011-10-15 10:13 pm (UTC)
newnumber6: Ghostly being (Default)
From: [personal profile] newnumber6
I'm hoping it'll wind up being "Oh, damn, I tried to push you into doing the hero thing, if I'd succeeded, that could have been you!" guilty look. Admittedly it doesn't look too much like that compared to condescending option, but it could be borne out by dialog in the next issue...

And I mean, literally this page is the SECOND he finds out. Maybe it's "So what, he's Spider-Man. He'll pull through, dude's a superhero, not Joe Schmoe. Please."

Date: 2011-10-15 10:20 pm (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
Remember, Bendis is the king of ambiguous cliffhangers that you should totally have worked out if the art wasn't unclear.

Like the Danielle Cage reveal in the run up to Secret Invasion.

Date: 2011-10-15 09:49 pm (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
You're saying that you hope that this kid is killed to provide drama for the lead?

Date: 2011-10-15 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I was being a cheeky, but if they have to do it, I hope they don't do it to Miles' actual uncle. There's a lot of interesting story that would be wasted, and...damn it, I want Ultimate Snoop Dogg to live.

Date: 2011-10-20 10:58 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
I wasn't the only one who thought he looked like snoop dogg then?

Date: 2011-10-15 07:54 pm (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Oh wow.

He might be worried about what people think of him now, but despite what his friend seems to think, people REALLLY aren't to take well to someone else in the Spider-Man persona once Peter's funeral is over.

I can see it now,
Ganke: Come on man, this is your chance! Live up to Peter Porker's..
Miles: Parker...
Ganke: Whatever. Live up to his example! You have a responsiblity to use your powers for good!
Miles: Well Okay...

*Moments Later*
Crowd: He's disrespecting Peter Parker's memory! Get him!
Miles: ;_;

Date: 2011-10-15 09:52 pm (UTC)
zyriex: Best Spiders Ever (Default)
From: [personal profile] zyriex
Yeah, I got to agree with you there.

Is it weird when reading this I kept on thinking, "You have powers, don't want to become Spider-man, why not start EMT/First Responder training?"

Date: 2011-10-15 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Well, he's 13 years old. He won't be able to do any of that for a long time yet.

Date: 2011-10-16 03:52 pm (UTC)
zyriex: Best Spiders Ever (Default)
From: [personal profile] zyriex
I dunno, one of my classmates got EMT training in high school, and while Miles isn't quite that old yet I can't help but feel that there should be some way for kids with superpowers to get come sort of assistance or head-start with this sort of thing other than getting some spandex.

Date: 2011-10-16 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Okay, little training is one thing (probably something a lot of superheroes do on their own, I would assume), but it sounded like you were saying, "He can get a job as an EMT/first responder," when, to be blunt, they probably haven't even dropped yet, let alone old enough for that kind of job.

Date: 2011-10-16 02:52 am (UTC)
lultam: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lultam
I hate being *that* guy but it's actually ultimate fallout =P

Date: 2011-10-15 10:14 pm (UTC)
mullon: (Luke Cage)
From: [personal profile] mullon
See Miles, that was directly your fault. Just like "I'm not made for this" is gonna come back and bite you in the ass when your father is killed next issue.

Date: 2011-10-16 06:38 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
to be honest... i hope his dad is killed... his dad was a jerk in this issue...

Date: 2011-10-16 01:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meowshi
I can't blame anyone for being anti-mutant after everything that has happened in the Ultimate universe. I mean, the "kill on sight" thing is ridiculous, but general fear and suspicion is somewhat understandable.

Date: 2011-10-16 02:20 am (UTC)
jetblack927: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jetblack927
Did anyone who read this get a "Kick-Ass" feel with this...despite them using the scenario in Spider-Man 2...

I was like, "Why is it ALWAYS A FIRE?" for superhero initiations....

Date: 2011-10-16 02:30 am (UTC)
glimmung: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glimmung
Maybe there is pyromaniac reverse flash like character who lights fires near potential supers. "For their own good."

Date: 2011-10-16 05:14 am (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Life FUn Fact: The life of Spider are fun and fullfilling... which makes up for MOST of the crap they live with.

Date: 2011-10-16 06:40 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
*sigh* im gonna have to buy this am i...

i loved this issue. i love miles. i want him tobe a hero, but i also want to hug him and tell him everything is going to be okay!

i have to say though, i thought i loved his dad... then he goes off and... damn i am sorry... to me (and maybe i am just projecting) miles finding out he is gay, his dad saying "I will love you and respect you, i am always here for you" *in walks some one with a gay pride shirt* "Damn homos! they need to fucking round you up and lock the key!"

really it felt like a punch in the gut to me

Date: 2011-10-16 07:36 am (UTC)
stolisomancer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
You're projecting. Superhumans in Ultimate New York are on everyone's shit list because of that time Magneto flooded the entire city. I know Marvel uses powers as a gay metaphor pretty frequently, but it's not really there in this case.

Date: 2011-10-16 02:17 pm (UTC)
newnumber6: Ghostly being (Default)
From: [personal profile] newnumber6
Actually, I think it is intended. There was an interview with the second issue that highlighted it and it certainly looked like the writer was going for that vibe a little.

However, because of the mutant situation it's a little more extreme than it would be in the direct analogy. Which is one of the problems with the metaphor, there are legitimate, rational reasons for people to be a little leery of mutants (not to discriminate, IMHO, but to be worried), so for the metaphor to hold you either need the reaction to be a lot more extreme, or you get people pointing out that mutants are really something to be concerned about. I imagine that were this a non-superhero story and Miles' issue was he gay it's a little less like "round them up and throw away the key" and more "eww, that's disgusting. they should keep their deviant behavior to themselves." Which certainly isn't good, by any means, and something you could believe would prevent him from confiding in his Dad, but not necessarily an insurmountable block to acceptance.

In fact, I suspect it's meant to be, in the long run, a metaphor for "Because my parents were always a little bit bigoted I was so afraid they wouldn't accept me, but once I told them it turned out they were okay with it (even if they did need a little time to get used to it)."

Date: 2011-10-16 04:02 pm (UTC)
stolisomancer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
See, I disagree if only because the story's circumstances are sufficiently different to prohibit the metaphor. If Morales was prejudiced against gay people, that'd presumably be largely irrational and something he could get over eventually. He's instead prejudiced against superhumans, and particularly in the Ultimate Universe, there's absolutely nothing irrational about that. He's not shouting at them, he's not throwing things or trying to start a fight when one did not already exist; he's simply saying he wishes they weren't around, and that's valid.

Then again, if Bendis is trying to go for a gay metaphor and screwing it up, that's different entirely.

Date: 2011-10-16 05:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] toby_wan_kenobi
A crazy member of a minority group demolishes a whole bunch of NYC and kills of a ton of people, and so people view that minority group with suspicion even though most of them are innocent.

I have to think that anti-Muslim bigotry maps better to this metaphor, but I haven't read this book yet or seen the scene in question...

He's wearing a cool shirt

Date: 2011-10-16 08:25 am (UTC)
jazzypom: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jazzypom
I love the art in this. I need, need to go and collect my damned comics.

Date: 2011-10-16 10:54 pm (UTC)
superfangirl1: (Default)
From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
The kid really adorable and very likeable. :)

Beast moment

Date: 2011-10-17 05:11 am (UTC)
nefrekeptah: (Ohshit)
From: [personal profile] nefrekeptah
That bit where Miles has a panic attack after saving those people is a big character defining moment for him. The other big character defining moment for him, however, and I wish there was room to post it here, was what happened directly before he tries to save them:

Ganke: "Dude, you can get her. Climb up there."

Miles: "People will see me."

Ganke: "Who cares?"

Miles: "You're right." (goes to be a big dammed hero)

Peter lost someone dear to him before it occurred to him to use his powers to save others. For all his reluctance, that is a problem Miles doesn't have.

Date: 2011-10-17 12:35 pm (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
I just love Miles! He's a genuinely good hearted and fun character. Kinda how Peter Parker was originally and should have been in his own main book.

Anyway, loving the art!


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