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proteus_lives ([personal profile] proteus_lives) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2011-10-20 08:58 pm

Avengers #18

Greetings True Believers!

A nice issue.

Cap says something that I think is totally spot-on.

Mockingbird gives a certain twosome the stink-eye.

Wong is a sour-puss.

And it's time for an Avengers sleep-over and draft!


Rogue and Loki as Avengers? I like that. Both fought them as villains (Hel, Loki is the reason the Avengers exist in the first place).

But Wade? I love him but no, just no.

Cap is right. We should have those fucking tower rebuilt by 2003. Fucking Bushhco.

Since the Tower is gone, all the Avengers pile into Luke's swinging Avengers Mansion.

Man! Wong is crabby nowadays.

And now Clint wishes he had Sue's powers. Heh.

Oh Peter. The art, I'm on the fence about it. I like and dislike it at the same time.
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[personal profile] sherkahn 2011-10-21 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
It's mixed, the art. It has good moments, and some confusing ones, too. What makes it all the more irritating is the inconsistency, even in the same panel.
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[personal profile] drmcninja 2011-10-21 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I enjoy all of it but Rulk. He looks like a mutated troll, not a hulk.
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[personal profile] nezchan 2011-10-21 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I like it for the most part, but Rulk on the last page really looks wrong. Plus, Ms. Marvel keeps losing her nose.
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[personal profile] crinos 2011-10-21 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Rulk looks like he wants a can of hash and some coffee.

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[personal profile] auggie18 2011-10-21 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I actually really like the art here.
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[personal profile] auggie18 2011-10-21 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Also, why is Wong being a wang?

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[personal profile] xammax 2011-10-21 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Please keep Spidey.
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[personal profile] rainspirit 2011-10-21 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Anywhere but his own book is awesome for him.
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[personal profile] turtlefu 2011-10-21 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
The Avengers with Herc, Misty Knight, Blade, Black Panther, Rogue, Cloak+Dags, Loki, Storm, and Ghost Rider are pretty much my dream team. Oh hey, it's also ethnically and gender-diverse!

Too bad none of them are actually going to end up on the team (maybe Storm).
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[personal profile] auggie18 2011-10-21 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. She-Hulk, Cloak and Dagger, Captain America, Storm, Son of Satan, Scarlet Witch, Monica-Captain Marvel, and Jocasta for me. They aren't all my favorites, but it's a diverse powerset and I'd like to see how they'd get along.

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Which Ant-Man is this?

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[personal profile] bruinsfan 2011-10-21 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh. I just cannot see Wong being that crude, particularly to someone who, like he, has devoted his life to the service of others. (And I say this as someone who laughed over his threat to burn the kitchen down if any of the New Avengers messed with it - that was actually funny.)
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-10-21 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it strikes a sour note with me too, though I've seen two chefs almost starting a knife fight when introduced.
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[personal profile] rocketlindy 2011-10-21 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
I really like the art, even if it has some weird details--it's really expressive and just the right amount of cartoonish, at least for my taste.

Oh, Cloak & Dagger. I kind of like them, and yet they've just never caught on. But really, more heroes need overdoses of synthetic heroin in their origin stories.
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-10-21 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
As they were forcibly injected with the drugs after being kidnapped, and it was made clear that several dozen other people died painful deaths from the same injections, I'm not sure I see much of a problem with it. They were not junkies, or even casual drug users, but victims of very sick minds.

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[personal profile] geoffsebesta 2011-10-21 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
What are you people talking about, mixed? On the fence? This is Mazzuchelli-level good.

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[personal profile] pyrotwilight 2011-10-21 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
If the Hawkeye Spider-Woman dynamic manages to be this lol I might just start to love it.

Kinda weird to see Mockingbird care though. Wasn't one of the big deals that was revealed when she came back was she was going to divorce him, the skrull impersonated her to "fix" their marriage and now that she was back still didn't want to re-marry? wait. Does this mean no more Mighty, New and Secret Avengers, just one? Because that kinda would make more sense anyway, just have a rotating staff.
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[personal profile] mrstatham 2011-10-21 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Clint and Bobbi tried to be together again once she came back, but I think it didn't work out because Clint couldn't deal with the stuff Bobbi was willing to do. At least, that's what I recall, could be wrong..

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[personal profile] fifthie 2011-10-21 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a little disappointed that Bendis missed the opportunity to have Jarvis sticking his finger into Wong's peanut butter jar.
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-10-21 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
That's not a euphemism is it? (I'm not hip with the latest slang you younguns use)

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[personal profile] big_daddy_d 2011-10-21 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Again. I am confused. I can understand why Clint and Bobbi aren't married now but, weren't they working on it and back together? Not to mention in New Avengers he was so desperate to save her life, yet in Avengers is making googley eyes at Spider-Woman. Someone help me out here.
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[personal profile] big_daddy_d 2011-10-21 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Wong is usually nice from what I've seen. Someone's jealous.

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[personal profile] mullon 2011-10-21 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh look, it's this speech again.
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[personal profile] drmcninja 2011-10-21 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
When did we have the last one? Last year? And in 2008? And in 2007? And in 2006? And in 2005?
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[personal profile] silverzeo 2011-10-21 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
Aunt May wouldn't stand for such language, much less in HER kitchen!

Cap, please. You died from a point blank gunshot, most character loose the ability to walk for 20 years, let alone having a real wound that handicaps them like "normal" people. Stop being dramatic with THor's death... again....
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[personal profile] glprime 2011-10-21 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
Is that Hawkeye's new rig? Nice. Seeing those enormous flap boots in FI scans was really annoying.

Also, wow Bendis, way to just shoe horn 9/11 back into something. That was really poignant and necessary.
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[personal profile] nyadnar17 2011-10-21 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly I pretty much feel the same way as Cap. I really liked that line

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[personal profile] kusonaga 2011-10-21 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
The art's good, but that sequence with Hawk, Beast and Mockingbird makes no sense to me. I have no idea what is supposed to be going on there.

Also, not a fan of dick-Wong.
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-10-21 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
Beast is just walking past so is no more a part of the narratiev than Danny.

I think the progression is (from Clint's POV)

Oh hai Jessica - Someone's watching me.. crap it's Bobbi - Well, THIS is awkward.

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[personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn 2011-10-21 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
So, what's all this mean, exactly? They're cutting the rosters?

Are they cutting teams?
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-10-21 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't this something like their 33 team shake up in five years? A little stability and less event drivens tuff might make me more interested in the title.
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[personal profile] drmcninja 2011-10-21 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I think three things are going to happen:

One, the 2012 event comes and they end the yearly event thing there because its been hyped, and if its average they may just go out on a middle note.

Two, the 2012 event is awesome and it gives them hope that the crossovers will sell again, so they keep doing it for the foreseeable future.

Three, the keep doing crossovers as long as they sell even marginally better.

My money is on 3.
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[personal profile] kirke_novak 2011-10-21 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
I like it? I'm surprised myself, since I hated nearly everything I saw about FI but yeah, I really like the art, I like the banter between the heroes, I like that they are stuck together like that.

As for the OMG WHO WILL BE THE AVENGER!, listen, guys, I have seen this used about 50 times before in the recent years. I've seen it before the CW, after the CW, when they were chosing Osborn's Avengers, Secret Avengers etc. Learn a new trick.
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[personal profile] randyripoff 2011-10-21 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
Does Spider-Woman still have that pheromone thing that makes her attractive to men but repulses women?

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[personal profile] amaniwolf 2011-10-21 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry,...i'm not digging Hawkeye's costume at all, eww. And yeah...Wong has never been so crass, he deserves better then to be written like some ranting Chinese man in a kitchen.
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[personal profile] bruinsfan 2011-10-22 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I don't mind him being cranky with the actual Avengers whose constant messes he will be cleaning up and getting his bluff in early, that was kind of an interesting take on a character who'd been highly subservient to Strange for years and then built a new more equal relationship after their falling out. But shrieking vulgar threats to a peer he's just met (whose domain that particular kitchen was FOR YEARS, by the way) is just beyond the pale.
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[personal profile] eyz 2011-10-21 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
So, "Shattered Heroes" will be the follow up we'll have after Fear Itself? Mmmh..

I like the art personally though.. And Spidey <3
Always better in stories like this than in his own book...

[personal profile] abriel 2011-10-21 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
When did Wong become such an asshole?

Oh right, look who's writing him now. Of course Bendis could do nothing more than write Wong as a stereotypical territorial cranky Chinese chef.

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[personal profile] drmcninja 2011-10-21 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
So, maybe its just me, but I wasn't even aware that that was a stereotype. Chinese chefs are stereotyped as cranky and territorial?

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[personal profile] crabby_lioness 2011-10-21 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
There were very vague hints last year about both Rogue and Iceman becoming Avengers. I figure TPTB will stop hinting and do something one of these years.

Wong is very nice to people who understand their place. And their place is outside of his kitchen. It's not an Asian stereotype so much as a servant stereotype. If you made them both Brits and stuck them in a manor house no one would blink at that exchange.
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[personal profile] schmevil 2011-10-21 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Boring art is boring. Doesn't do anything for the story.

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