benicio127: (whut)benicio127 ([personal profile] benicio127) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily,
@ 2011-10-20 08:59 pm UTC
Entry tags:creator: kate beaton, creator: scott lobdell
Scott Lobdell does an interview with Newsarama on Red Hood, Starfire, sex and gender inequality.



I honestly had a particularly negative reaction to this interview. So did some others, including Ragnell, who I don't always agree with, but I thought had a great post and criticism of it.



The good thing is that the story has gotten people to talk about issues they are passionate about — and that can only ever lead to a better understanding on everyone's part.


It.... kind of sounds like he's saying it's a good thing he wrote this problematic portrayal because it's helped to foster discussion!

More and a bit that really made me grate my teeth:

Nrama: The character is obviously very comfortable with nudity and sex, which isn't exactly new to her character, but was really played up in the art here. Was that the intended message behind the way she was visually portrayed?


Lobdell: I'm not really sure one draws a Koriand'r in a bathing suit on a tropical island without making her sexy.



Also, I don't think a beautiful and confident woman needs to apologize to anyone for the way she dresses, on a beach or off.


Nrama: How do you see Kori in the first issue? Was she meant to come across as a little weak as she leaned on Jason for decisions and offered sex to Roy, or was there another meaning behind her actions? What can you tell us about how she acted in the story — and why? 


Lobdell: I think in a courthouse this would be called "leading the witness. "

In the first issue Kori shows up only when she is needed to rescue the guys. Once that is accomplished — between panels as a way to show how her sudden appearance completely changes the power dynamics present so far in the story — she politely asks her friend if there is anything else she can do to help. Polite is the new weak? Would it have been a better portrayal of the character if she had said "I will fly ahead and kill everyone in your path, Jason?" 




Yep, so if you had concerns about that part, you just interpreted it wrong! Personally, I did not find any friend-type behaviour in that scene, particularly not on Jason's side of things. This was also the part I had the most problems with; where Jason made a joke about Kory's boobs and then talks about using her dislike/distrust of soldiers to his advantage and then it just... got worse from there.

And one more bit for good measure!


Nrama: What was the thought behind the story description of Tamaraneans as not seeing humans as much more than sites and smells? Does that mean she doesn't remember things that may or may not have happened in the past? Or was there another meaning behind that statement?


Lobdell: I love the fact that Kori is an alien. She and the rest of her race have been described of being descended from felines and we all know that humans and cats have different ways of perceiving our environment — so it stands to reason that Humans and people from Tamaran see things differently.



Now, as Humans we might fall into the prejudicial and xenophobic trap of applying a judgment onto other races that they are somehow lacking or even "stupid" because they see the world from another perspective. But I'd like to think that as comic book fans we can all accept that not everyone in the galaxy sees each other as we do.
 



/FACEPALM

For legality: Kate Beaton's STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS!!!











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nezchan: Navis at breakfast (cereal, navis)


[personal profile] nezchan
2011-10-21 12:27 pm UTC (link)
What is it with the DC guys, whenever they produce something like this and get called on it, the responses always end up as "you're whining" and "we're right in the first place" and then proceeding to demonstrate they don't understand the objections in the first place. It's like they've all got a variation of .

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[personal profile] lascoden
2011-10-21 05:25 pm UTC (link)
To be fair, not owning up to mistakes isn't really exclusive to just them.

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2011-10-22 09:38 pm UTC (link)
Because they really have no sense of their readership, nor do they realize the massive potential market share that female readers represent. Currently, their majority by in large IS the 18-25 male demo. So they pander to that. What they fail to understand is they can pander to the male AND female demo at the same time, without offending or alienating the other, and maximize their profits. Instead they hedge their bets and double down on the Male demo, avoiding things female readers might like to see for fear it will alienate male readers (underestimating their own male readership in the process) and stuffing in things they think the male readership will like IE: Starfire in a bikini. Which being a CIS Male, I did like the art of, in a purely carnal way - but even I winced at the undertones and messages of that issue.

As a result, they alienate everyone but the people who honestly don't care, who are -going to buy their comics anyway-. They're preaching to the choir, effectivly.

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