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creator: david finch, creator: richard friend, title: batman: the dark knight

Batman The Dark Knight #2

The white rabbit. Is she new or have she been around in the batman comics before?

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icon_uk
2011-10-27 07:19 am UTC (link)

So the amped up Ventriloquist is using corpses as his puppet? I'm honestly not sure if that's unspeakably gross, or grossly awesome. And I'm glad he's back, the new Ventriloquist was good, but her story was so tied in with a single story arc, I was never sure how she'd work long term.

White Rabbit is new I think, unless she's a member of the Mad Hatter's Wonderland gang.

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espanolbot
2011-10-27 07:48 am UTC (link)

Yeah, she's new... to DC. There's been a female White Rabbit character in Marvel for some time now, she's a supervillain who nobody takes seriously, to the extent she can only get henchmen by telling them that they're just pretending and that the heroes are actually actors.

I guess DC just wanted the full set in the Batman books, what with them already having the Mad Hatter, Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, Alice over in Batwoman, the Carpenter, the Walrus, the Lion and the Unicorn, and the other members of the Wonderland Gang.

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	no subject eyz 2011-10-27 08:44 am UTC (link)
	Perhaps they'll get to use all of them in some Bat-centric event at some point? "BATMAN: PANIC IN WONDERLAND" or sumthin'~ (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject icon_uk 2011-10-27 11:18 am UTC (link)
	"The Arkham/Wonderland War" ? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject eyz 2011-10-27 12:05 pm UTC (link)
	Ha! Smart obscure references! +1 internet cookie for you! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject icon_uk 2011-10-27 04:41 pm UTC (link)
	If I'd REALLY been on the ball, I'd have recalled Prairie Girl and Lion Man from the BTAS comics, and how Robin wonders if they're going to join up with the Scarecrow as a "Wizard of Oz" themed gang. ;) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject donnblake 2011-10-27 04:23 pm UTC (link)
	Didn't Steel clash with a White Rabbit back in the day? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject icon_uk 2011-10-27 04:31 pm UTC (link)
	He did indeed, though that was an old business partner called (believe it or not) Angora. She was an albino (IIRC) weapon designer and arms dealer. Not much in apparent common with this young lady. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject proteus_lives 2011-10-28 04:54 am UTC (link)
	I'm going with awesome. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject meowshi 2011-10-27 07:31 am UTC (link)
	Sure am glad the other Batman books are good... (Reply to this)

	no subject espanolbot 2011-10-27 07:39 am UTC (link)
	Nooo, Mr Jay, don't start using Titan again! You know what happened last time! And your face is stuck back on again apparently. (Reply to this)

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sadoeuphemist
2011-10-27 08:00 am UTC (link)

Beautiful.

An arc where all the villains get roided up, this is it, this is what I have been waiting my entire life to see without ever consciously realizing. Joker quoting Red Mist quoting Joker, everything coming full circle. Tears of disbelieving ecstasy are slowly sliding down my cheeks as I type this; I didn't think anything could possibly live up to "One-Face" and yet, here we are.

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thehefner
2011-10-27 08:26 am UTC (link)

Considering that Harvey's ranting about "fear" in the page just before the first scan, coupled with the fact that the Scarecrow is on the cover of issue #5, I'm wondering if this is all Crane's doing.

I suspect that he's doing some kind of variation of Never Fear's no-fear formula with either Venom, Titan, or Hugo Strange's Monster Men serum, isn't he? Well, considering that Hugo used fear toxin first, it'd only be fitting for Squishy to rip Hugo off a second time! I doubt that's exactly what happened, but if it were, then that'd pretty darn interesting, actually.

As it is... yyyyyyyyyeah, I think I'll pass. I'm glad to see the classic rogues being active, I really am, but... yeah, no.

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	no subject kamino_neko 2011-10-28 08:18 am UTC (link)
	The drug used on the villains is connected to Crane's serum. It's unclear, yet, whether Crane is actually involved in it, but I'm guessing not - it'd be a strange change of MO (as the drug eliminates fear, rather than creating it) from an in-story standpoint, and they found the connection far too early from an out-of-story standpoint. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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eyz
2011-10-27 08:47 am UTC (link)

Okay. It might turn out more fun than what the 1st issue made me think.. (do were really need that many Bat-books? Couldn't this be an arc used later on in either Batman or Detective Comics? /end rant)

It's fun to already see the whole Bat-gang in active duty, on the same plot this early in the reboot.
Though I still find it a bit weird to see the likes of Batwoman and Damian AND Barbara!Batgirl in-story at the same time...

The art's a bit too pin-up-ysh for my taste..specially on a Bat-book...

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I might like DCnU Damien

blue_bolt
2011-10-27 09:31 am UTC (link)

I never liked the original Damien. I just couldn't forgive his whole "I'm gonna go chop off a guy's head [the spook] put a grenade in it and show it to my father, he love me for betraying everything he stands for!" He's supposed to be smart, instead he fails to comprehend how his father would respond to even the slightest degree.

Eventually his crush on Supergirl and his budding friendship with Stephanie warmed me to him but I never really considered him a Robin. To me Stephanie Brown was more of a Robin than Damien and she only wore the costume for - I think it was - a month.

It's Damien's "this going to suck face" and his realization they need backup that makes me hopeful. Damien is a cocksure brat (or rather was) who considers himself better than everyone else. Batman may come off as this but Bruce really just doesn't want anyone getting hurt and so he tries to prevent people from helping so he doesn't have to worry about them.

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	Re: I might like DCnU Damien meowshi 2011-10-27 12:17 pm UTC (link)
	Batman and Robin is really good, although Damian is pretty much exactly the way you describe him. You should check it out... (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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minyandu
2011-10-27 02:13 pm UTC (link)

Damian, not Damien, please.

I mean, whether you like him or not, at least try to write his name right. I have a name than can easily be written wrong. One of my primary school teacher insisted on writing it wrong even after I corrected her. I don't know if she thought her idea of my name was better than the original or else, but that leaves a foul taste in my mouth every time I see people writing someone's name wrong.

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mrstatham
2011-10-27 02:23 pm UTC (link)

Preach, dude or dudette. Thanks to my Mum (love her despite this) and her quirks, she decided to call me Ciaran. That's like the original Irish spelling of the Engish Kieron or Kieran or some of the other variants out there; Which is fine. I like it.

However, only a handful of the people I've ever met can pronounce the fucking thing without my help and/or asking how to say it. Those that try either a - astonishingly get it right (this is rare, like 30% rare) or b - pronounce it as 'Karen' or something along those lines, or, in one case, 'Sharon'. I found the last one kind of insulting when it happened.

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	Re: I might like DCnU Damien aeka 2011-10-27 02:48 pm UTC (link)
	Continuing the name thread, I know how you both feel. My name of DIANE with an 'E' is frequently misspelled as Dian, Dianne, or more commonly, Diana. It's enough to say I have to clarify the spelling of my first name far more than my actual last name which people have an even harder time pronouncing. :( (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	Re: I might like DCnU Damien mrstatham 2011-10-27 04:20 pm UTC (link)
	We need some sort of a club for this thing, really. And a motto like 'Get our names wrong and we will smack you about the head with a newspaper harder than you can possibly imagine', which has to be said in a faux-Alec Guinness/Obi Wan Kenobi voice. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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aeka
2011-10-27 01:29 pm UTC (link)

do were really need that many Bat-books? Couldn't this be an arc used later on in either Batman or Detective Comics? /end rant

Agreed. As much as I've always been a huge fan of the Bat, does he seriously need four books where he's the main character? A lot of these stories could easily be told as later story arcs in Batman or Detective Comics as you said. :/

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mrstatham
2011-10-27 02:30 pm UTC (link)

It really doesn't help that this is also yet another Arkham breakout that seems overwhelming for Batman and the Batclan and Gotham's police, whereas in Batman No.1, Snyder was doing the same thing and wrapping it up in a matter of pages.

I understand that their attitude might be 'let Finch do whatever the fuck he wants' in order to keep him about as an artist, but honestly, he's not THAT good an artist to warrant his own Batman book , especially not an ongoing when there are much better people who could be making one, and when it takes up a space that other characters - Spoiler and Blackbat? Red Robin? - could be using.

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	no subject aeka 2011-10-27 02:55 pm UTC (link)
	I wholeheartedly agree. At best, I think Bruce only needs to be the star of two books, but the rest of these spaces could be used by characters that are currently missing in action. And speaking of Cass, if it's true that she'll be a reappearing on Batman, Inc., that's a bloody long wait. :( (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

I wear my sunglasses at night. So I can, so I can...

blue_bolt
2011-10-27 09:16 am UTC (link)

Well it looks like Mr. Dent *puts on sunglasses* is only a veneer when he has no fear. (Yeaaaah!)

No, seriously - that's not Two-Face. Two-Face is the guy who took Montoya hostage and then found himself guilty (seriously, Two-Face finding himself guilty has to be one the few crowning moments of awesome for the character).

Also, I'm pretty certain that the Ventriloquist is just using the corpse until he gets Scarface back. He's obsessed with that thing. But more importantly... yay! The real Ventriloquist is back (Harley now that he's back will you put on your old costume? I liked it better, the new one's not nearly as attractive/hawt).

Question: who is that says "Methinks a palpable and bloody hit?" I don't remember him.

Question: is Black Canary being hit when she says "You got a better one?" Or did the artist just decide to contort her into that ridiculous position to show off her boobs?

I'd complain about the whole cheesecake with White Rabbit, but that's pretty tame in comparison to some of the other DCnU stuff.

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	Re: I wear my sunglasses at night. So I can, so I can... sadoeuphemist 2011-10-27 09:48 am UTC (link)
	That guy would be the Cavalier, I guess. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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coldfiredragon
2011-10-27 09:46 am UTC (link)

I loved this issue solely for the cameos and for Alfred. He's got a few GREAT one liners that aren't featured in the above pages. Seeing Dick and Damian together again, even if it was only for 2 pages was awesome.

I must say this about Dick's red costume. Its growing on me.... everywhere that it appears BUT in the Nightwing book. The art for Dick in the cameo of this book I love, the bits that he has been in Snyder's Batman I've adored but I cannot make myself like the way Dick is drawn in his solo series. Its sad. Eddy Barrows does brilliant art for the rest of the book. His buildings, scenery and use of light and shadow are beautiful but his version of Dick Grayson is just too old for the reboot and it ruins the book for me.

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	no subject kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com 2011-10-27 10:13 am UTC (link)
	Last page = Incoherent screaming on so many level. AWGH! (Reply to this)

	no subject q99 2011-10-27 10:19 am UTC (link)
	Uh, what's with Bab's 'duck and cover your head' fighting style? She had plenty of room to attack. (Reply to this)

	no subject biod 2011-10-27 11:03 am UTC (link)
	You got your fanservice in my Joker! You got your Joker in my fanservice! Nightmare Fuel for everyone! (Reply to this)

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nyadnar17
2011-10-27 11:52 am UTC (link)

White Rabbit isn't new. She was the villain from when Steel's had a comic book. She is even using her trademark drug...tar I think it was called? I wonder if she is bringing back those toastmaster guns steel designed?!!

Squee! Sorry but I really loved all those black comic book character runs from DC's diversity push in the 90's and I can't tell you how joyful I feel that someone actual remembered this character and is using her!

http://www.comicvine.com/white-rabbit/29-60413/

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	no subject drexer 2011-10-27 01:20 pm UTC (link)
	Using her as white character as pretty much fanservice from all we've seen... I'm sorry. I feel like I should be reading some kind of sarcasm in your post; because honestly I cannot see anything positive in this new rendition. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject kamino_neko 2011-10-28 08:28 am UTC (link)
	I'm pretty sure this is no more Angora than it is the White Rabbit from Shadowpact. She doesn't look like her and she doesn't act like her. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject aeka 2011-10-27 12:31 pm UTC (link)
	Ummm....where's Poison Ivy? Wasn't she the latest recruit besides Katana on the last Birds of Prey issue? o_O Also Joker with a new henchgirl? Harley Quinn won't approve of this! Look Batgirl, I cut myself! Hah heh eh heh, because you're dead 'Oh Brother' indeed. DC you're trying too hard to be 'edgy' (pun intended). facepalm (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

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mrstatham
2011-10-27 02:34 pm UTC (link)

No, Finch is trying to hard to be edgy. He's like the poor man's Jim Lee with an added dollop of darkness in his style and a teeny tiny dab of Paul Dini in there to come up with his storylines. DC just approved this and let it free on an unsuspecting public because they need to keep him around.

And yes, compared to the stellar side-mission he stars in within Arkham City, this interpretation of Zsasz is a complete joke.

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aeka
2011-10-27 02:59 pm UTC (link)

That scene with Zsasz reminded me of last month's Dark Knight issue where Two-Face said "Two-Face no longer Batty Boy. You can call me One-Face now."

Would it be going too far to say *most* of the baddies in this book feel like complete jokes of their actual selves? Cause they're certainly coming off that way.

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	no subject mrstatham 2011-10-27 04:15 pm UTC (link)
	It's called 'Finch is writing the plot and doesn't really understand any of the Batman villains besides how hardcore and badass they can be' and his desire, as a 90's kid, to do some of the most stupid things possible with these characters. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject filthysize 2011-10-27 03:00 pm UTC (link)
	LOOK UNDER YOUR SEATS! YOU GET A VENOM! HE GETS A VENOM! SHE GETS A VENOM! EVERYBODY GETS A VENOM! (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject mrstatham 2011-10-27 04:26 pm UTC (link)
	Next month this bullshit is going to spread to other DC cities. In keeping with Finch's BRILLIANT ideas, Captain Cold is now gonna turn into a giant 'roid rager with equally giant ice guns and call himself 'Iceberg' because of, y'know, his size. MORE SHITTY YET INEVITABLE IDEAS AS MY FINCH-BRAIN DEVELOPS THEM. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject twospirit.blogspot.com 2011-10-27 04:32 pm UTC (link)
	snort Exactly. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject tsunamiwombat 2011-10-27 05:28 pm UTC (link)
	I bring you brain bleach to wash this terrible finch title from your minds. http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/255/e/b/bat_cat_by_neoslashott-d49iof2.swf Then realize in horror you can never stop listening to it. Welcome to my world. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject coldfiredragon 2011-10-27 05:49 pm UTC (link)
	My brain! lol! My cat came up to see what the hell it was then climbed back down before I could tear myself away. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject sir_mikael 2011-10-27 10:09 pm UTC (link)
	I've had this on for like ten minutes now... (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject sir_mikael 2011-10-27 10:47 pm UTC (link)
	Aaand I finally managed to turn it off just now. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject liara_shadowsong 2011-10-30 03:29 pm UTC (link)
	O_O That is so adorable. Bat-Cat! :D (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject big_daddy_d 2011-10-27 11:58 pm UTC (link)
	So...Dark Knight is the Batman horror book clearly. (Reply to this)

	no subject thefiretonight 2011-10-28 02:24 am UTC (link)
	Wait, how did Joker get his face back...? I'm not reading any main Bat books besides Batman and not too impressed with these pages besides giggling over Damian's 'oh, shit face'. Any of them good? I gave B&R a try and didn't like it... (Reply to this)

	no subject silverzeo 2011-10-28 03:20 am UTC (link)
	Ventriloquist and Joker... DAMN!! (Reply to this)

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kamino_neko
2011-10-28 08:33 am UTC (link)

This'd be the third White Rabbit DC's had - the first a Steel antagonist, the second a Shadowpact enemy.

This is the first one to settle in the Home of Wonderland References, Gotham City*, though.

I'd thought she'd appeared before, but checking that was the March Hare (who was in the Tweedles' Wonderland Gang, along with a mind-controlled Mad Hatter).

* We have in the order they happen to come to me, the Mad Hatter, the Tweedles, the March Hare, Alice, the Walrus and the Carpenter, the Lion and the Unicorn, and now the White Rabbit. (Walrus, Carpenter, Lion and Unicorn were created for the same story...only Carpenter stuck around.)

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