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Peter goes after Strange, demanding to know how Carlie could have uncovered his identity after his spell.



The thing he has to do is give MJ the antidote, since she still has her spider-powers.

Also, Kaine is now scarless, and from the looks of it I'm guessing he's going to be the new Scarlet Spider. I liked what they did with Kaine when they brought him back (before 'killing' him off), but I'm not too crazy about prettifying him and making him some sort of superhero. And why tease the possibility of bringing Ben back?

And Julia Carpenter, the new Madame Web (I still don't understand why they had to kill off the old one and make her the new one) apologizes to Peter about the loss that's to come.

Date: 2011-11-02 04:08 pm (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
AND CARLIE COOPER WAS NEVER SEEN AGAIN.

Date: 2011-11-02 04:41 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
NOTE: CARLIE COOPER DIED ON THE WAY BACK TO HER HOME PLANET.

Date: 2011-11-02 08:11 pm (UTC)
mercia: Stephen Colbert has Slack (Default)
From: [personal profile] mercia
Carlie Cooper's plane was shot down over the Sea of Japan. There were no survivors.

Addendum to Mod Note

Date: 2011-11-03 04:57 pm (UTC)
salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)
From: [personal profile] salinea
I'd like to remind you that [community profile] scans_daily is a feminist community. As such, jokes that are about violence towards women or female characters, and jokes about fridging are not welcome here. You are welcome to not like the character, but not to joke or support violence against women or female characters.

Re: Addendum to Mod Note

Date: 2011-11-03 05:25 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
M*A*S*H. That's another commonly-known pop culture reference, at least here in the US. That episode was a seminal, huge event--another major character being written out of one of the highest rated television series of all time.

We are fans of pop culture, and often speak in terms of quotes, references, and subtext. If someone doesn't get the reference, is it our job to spell out the reference and educate people on the context? Or are references just verboten now, at the risk that what we say will be taken out of context by those not familiar with the same pop culture?

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Date: 2011-11-03 05:32 pm (UTC)
salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)
From: [personal profile] salinea
Was I being unclear? Quotes and pop culture references aren't the problem here. How they are used is. If you use quotes and pop culture references to joke about fridging a female character, then we have a problem. If you do not, carry on.

Re: Addendum to Mod Note

Date: 2011-11-03 05:40 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
If references are now forbidden for fear of people taking them literally, then by that logic, no one's allowed to say "fridged" anymore either, because, since it references a violent act against a female character, that could be taken as advocating violence against women by those who either haven't heard the term on the internet or read the original story in Green Lantern.

Either way, fridging is a violent act against a female character and you’re using it in the exact same manner (actually, you’re using it in a much broader context, meaning “any female character death” rather than its original intended usage of “any female character death used to motivate a male character”). Why exactly is referencing it as pop culture shorthand for death acceptable, while other pop culture shorthand references to writing a character out of a storyline awkwardly through death unacceptable?

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Date: 2011-11-03 07:45 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
Dude, everyone here knows you're not really advocating that women be stuffed in refrigerators.

But context matters, and in light of The Big Two's zeal for torturing and killing female characters for shits and giggles... jokes from fans along the lines of haw haw she's as good as dead just really aren't that fucking funny.

You aren't laughing at misogynists when you write stuff like that. You're laughing with them.

Please stop. There are better ways to complain about badly written/drawn characters in fiction.

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Date: 2011-11-03 07:58 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
Henry Blake was a beloved character. His death wasn't played for laughs, not even gallows laughs. Nobody-- viewer or character, rejoiced when he died in the story.

Big difference between the original connotations and what the line is being used for here. Again, please please think about the context here and what you're doing. :(

Re: Addendum to Mod Note

Date: 2011-11-03 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Less directed towards this example, which I don't really have an opinion on, and more towards the boards in general- that seems like an odd ruling. Given that A) Scans Daily exists to discuss comics, B) Superhero comics are a major genre of comics C) Superhero comics frequently involve violence and D) as a feminist/women-friendly community, Scans Daily tends to focus more on female characters than other boards might, I don't want to end up in a situation where I express approval of (f'r example) Sin being beat down at the climax of an arc and get called out for supporting violence against a female character.

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Date: 2011-11-03 08:55 pm (UTC)
salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)
From: [personal profile] salinea
I don't want to end up in a situation where I express approval of (f'r example) Sin being beat down at the climax of an arc and get called out for supporting violence against a female character.
There's a pretty large difference between joking about a love interest getting killed and expressing approval when a mass murderer villain gets a beat down. We are able to take context into consideration, so don't worry about this.

Date: 2011-11-02 09:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Wasn't there a fan-parody of that with Dexter done in SImpson-style

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Date: 2011-11-03 04:57 pm (UTC)
salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)
From: [personal profile] salinea
I'd like to remind you that [community profile] scans_daily is a feminist community. As such, jokes that are about violence towards women or female characters, and jokes about fridging are not welcome here. You are welcome to not like the character, but not to joke or support violence against women or female characters.

Re: Addendum to Mod Note

Date: 2011-11-03 05:17 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
... It's a Simpsons quote. It's... a bloody Simpsons quote. A commonly referenced episode that's become pop culture shorthand--at least in the States. It's a reference to a character who has outstayed their welcome and was awkwardly removed from the storyline.

Let me ask honestly: were you familiar with the context? Did you recognize the reference? Furthermore, I wasn't even the first to make this reference, and yet you haven't left a mod note on icon_uk's thread, which he posted fifteen minutes before I posted mine. Why didn't you say something there? Did his use of strikeouts make the quote clearer to you?

All right, I understand that not everyone's seen the episode, and to anyone who actually was offended, to THEM ALONE I apologize and will strive to be more careful and thoughtful in the future. If I quote anything that I feel might be mistaken by those who don't know the context, then I shall reference it accordingly. How's that?

Fucking hell.

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Date: 2011-11-03 05:21 pm (UTC)
salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)
From: [personal profile] salinea
It being a quote doesn't make it any less a joke about killing a female character.

Thanks for bringing [personal profile] icon_uk's comment to my attention, I had missed it.

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Date: 2011-11-03 05:38 pm (UTC)
thehefner: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehefner
Except it wasn't about killing a female character, but rather how an editor would make the excuse for said character vanishing from a story as they awkwardly writer him/her out.

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Date: 2011-11-03 07:48 pm (UTC)
cleome45: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cleome45
I get the reference. I've seen the Simpsons.

It still left a bad taste in my mouth. So, to be fair, did the other posts that made funny ha-has about fridging female characters.

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Date: 2011-11-05 01:57 am (UTC)
kashmirkong: Batman in a bowler hat. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kashmirkong
I hear ya. This is why I rarely comment or visit Scans Daily anymore.

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Date: 2012-10-18 06:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sallymustard
A bloobloobloo! You can go literally anywhere else on the internet and be edgy neckbeard funny. It is not one ounce of a tragedy that this kind of attention is paid to these matters in this one single solitary space.

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Date: 2011-11-02 08:15 pm (UTC)
grimmbear: (Default)
From: [personal profile] grimmbear
Wait... is it safe to read Spider-men comics again? Really?

Date: 2011-11-02 08:18 pm (UTC)
majingojira: (Crapfic)
From: [personal profile] majingojira
Actually, the whole Spider Island event has been pretty decent overall.
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Mod Note

Date: 2011-11-03 04:55 pm (UTC)
salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)
From: [personal profile] salinea
I'd like to remind you that [community profile] scans_daily is a feminist community. As such, jokes that are about violence towards women or female characters, and jokes about fridging are not welcome here. You are welcome to not like the character, but not to joke or support violence against women or female characters.

Mod Note

Date: 2011-11-03 03:44 am (UTC)
salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)
From: [personal profile] salinea
This thread is under discussion by the mod team and frozen meanwhile.

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