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[shadowpsykie]

what ever, i don't care, i STILL think that MJ could and SHOULD be the next Scarlet Spider! in my head, she is... and i will DRAW IT!..... maybe... i don't know.... SOME ONE WILL DRAW IT I INVOKE RULE 32!!!





I would Also LIke to reward you guys who helped me with my paper with this video my professor showed us at the begining of class as we discussed Joss Whedon, Feminism and Astonishing X-Men: Gifted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYaczoJMRhs

http://fanboywatchtower.tumblr.com/post/12310564628/so-in-my-graphic-novel-class-at-cal-state

i may be a little bit in love with this man...
*Note: POsted my blog link which has he video because for some reason i can't get the link to embed here...

Comments

[simiansyndicate]

Dear Marvel,



Hey. I know, it has been a while, and our last falling out was pretty harsh. I saw your number on my caller ID. I've seen your occasional posts on Facebook. I see you're getting better, and that's great. You're doing the things that make me want to be around you, to be your friend again. Compelling stories with good characters again? You're working on it! That's awesome.

Now, I'm not saying I'm coming back for a commitment, far from it. But maybe, maybe...we can get coffee sometime? Go over some issues? I think that would be nice. We were friends and so much more for so long, and our last breakup was hard. But I'm willing to chat and be civil with you again. Just don't backslide, ok? Alright. Next Wednesday it is.

Yours,
~SS

[freezer]

The hate-filled, cynical part of me thinks that Marvel didn't simply have the spider-powers/mutations simply fade after the Big Bad's defeat just to include a scene were Peter takes MJ's powers away, Silver Age!Superman style.

Yes, I take my Haterade extra-strength, why do you ask?

[shadowpsykie]

watch the video i posted... i makes you happy... it made ME happy. i am so happy (it really gave me chills)

[superfangirl1]

Jezz Peter. What a way to be a party pooper. You could of let her have some fun for awhile.

Nice video too. :)

[akodo_rokku]

Hey, at least Spider-Girl got to keep HER powers!

I assume she's not mutating into a giant spider because she's one of the "True Spiders" or whatever.

[shadowpsykie]

She took the cure, but it's implied she kept her powers, yes. Maybe mj is one too. Madame Web implied there were other spiders

[shadowpsykie]

"Nice video too. :)"
It made me feel so happy. It really did. it gave me.chills

[superfangirl1]

It good to feel that way and I like his speech. :)

[shadowpsykie]

everything he said i was like "yes, Yes, YES!"
"Equality is not a concept. It's not something we should be striving for. It's a necessity. Equality is like gravity. We need it to stand on this earth as men and women, and the misogyny that is in every culture is not a true part of the human condition. It is life out of balance, and that imbalance is sucking something out of the soul of every man and woman who's confronted with it. We need equality. Kinda now"

I love what he says that people are obsessed with why he creates these strong female characters when people SHOULD be asking "Why isn't anyone else doing it!"

im sorry, i know, i'm gushing. but it is SO refreshing to see someone say these things outloud and yet so eloquently *is so not totally in love with joss whedon at the moment, nope not at all.*

[salinea]

Damn. I thought you'd had the class discussion on your blog but it's just that old Equality, Now speech. Not that it wasn't an awesome speech, lol, but I wanted to know more about the discussion about Whedon and Gifted and feminism *pouts*

[shadowpsykie]

Lol I.ll post it tomorrow I swear. I had never heard the video before so I was absorbed by that, and wanted to post that right away. Plus I have a headache and can't think clearly, tomorrow afternoon, I swear

[salinea]

whee!

Yeah, it really is a great speech ^^

Hope your headache improves soon!

[long_silence]

It's weird because in this issue the Horizon Labs people said that the cure would take away ANY Spider powers, including Peter's and he's a true Spider. And Julia Carpenter confirmed that, saying that he could have lived a normal life if he took that cure.

So I don't see how Anya kept her powers.

[jlbarnett]

Joss loves victimizing his female characters to much and destroys them in ways he never even attempts with the male characters I've seen. Also their recovery is frequnetly(much like many of the times he's ruined a relationship of some sort) simply slide over for the next trauma

[shadowpsykie]

i;m just trying to remember the question prompt she asked us at the begining of class....something about what does what he said in the video related to what he wrote in astonishing x-men, and how it compares to dark knight and watchmen's treatment of women...

[shadowpsykie]

i know... its weird... i don't know...

[theredhood]

Did you post the right video? It's just Joss Whedon talking about his mom and stuff. I thought it was gonna be about "The Avengers."

[shadowpsykie]

yes this the right video. it has to do with my class. we were discussing feminism and astonishing x-men

[shadowpsykie]

he has put angel through hell, xander through hell, wesley through hell, and giles through hell, and Mal through hell, hell Mal Duncan is one of the most messed up characters he has ever created. its true he does the same to the women, aside from serenity and angel most of his shows are female heavy.

on buffy you had through high school Buffy, Cordelia, willow, anya, Joyce, faith and then Giles, angel, and xander, oz for the last season or two.

then in college you had buffy, anya, willow, tara, Dawn, Joyce and then Giles, Xander, and Riley for... a season (never liked riley)

for him everyone was fair game.

and i don't think he Loves Victimizing them at all. He loves showing that women don't have to be victims. that you can throw them through the ringer, just like you would a male character, and they will come out stronger.

also i don't think he victimized them at all. the show was about turning tropes on their head. victims stayed down, victims need to be saved especially if they are women. here, they didn't stay down, they did the saving, and they kicked ass doing it. if they suffered it wasn't because they were women its because of the line of work they were in. and anytime some tried to victimize them they stood up and fought against it and usually won.

[jlbarnett]

For the men, I think Angel is the only one who came close to suffering what some of the women of the Buffyverse suffered. And the women of the Buffyverse surviving going through the ringer didn't make me feel they were stronger, it made me feel whatever choice they'd make they end up going through it.

I would have occasionally liked to see them avoid their problems because it would have made it seem less like the universe going "well we can't torment you anymore this year if we want there to be a next year to torment you."

[shadowpsykie]

the way i see it, Buffy was peter parker, so naturally she got kicked around by the universe. but she always said "Screw you universe" and though it fought hard she usually always won out in the end. hell she died twice and came back.

she was the worse treated but she always (well save the slump she had season 7 it had its moments but i was like... geez buff, stop being sooo not buffy) remained buffy.

willow came close. it wasn't because she had power though, it was because she abused that power. she became a "Junky" because she may have started out using her powers for good, but ended up using her powers for personal gain.

Giles was tortured by Angelus, and more often than not he was the helpless victim, same with xander.

i don't know. i always loved that no matter how hard the universe tried to hold buffy and her friends back. no matter how many men (in the form of the watcher's council) tried to control her, she would have none of it. (again season 7 not my favorite season, it had good points "musical!!!" but didn't love her being all mopey)

[theredhood]

Ah, because of the whole feminism angle. I getcha. It seemed dry for something you were so excited about; genuine confusion on my part - not snark. but I get why it hit the spot, now.

[biod]

Joss Whedon will destroy every character you love, male or female. It's just is MO.

[proteus_lives]

Nah, I like MJ better as a citizen. She doesn't need to be super.

[eyz]

Awww...come on!!!
Everybody wanted MJ to keep her powers, made even sense story-wise for future plots and whatnot!