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Sibling rivalry and many a punch!

7 pages from a 22 page story plus one page from DC Universe #0

Since it was asked last post when I noted it. Red Volcano's first appearance took place in DC Universe 0, a little over a year before the Red Tornado mini series.

 

Which was of course a lead into the Genocide arc of Wonder Woman before her reboot and rereboot. Interesting to note Volcano looks much more like Red tornado in this first appearance than later. 

But now back to our story...

 

Continuing from last issue Tornado and Torpedo go into a battle against the US bases troops until they get a visual match to Red Tornado and cease their attack (having assumed the two were Inferno and Volcano)

 



Have to admit a part of me really liked that in case of danger take refuge at another JLA'ers house is part of Red Tornado's family plan.

 



Heh. Seth's still working on his brakes it seems.

During Volcano and Tornado's fight, Volcano proclaims he'll tear Tornado apart...          

 

Can you feel it? Can you feel the love?

 

Alas for Inferno, Torpedo's pimp hand is mighty indeed.

Volcano seeing he's fighting a losing battle with Inferno knocked out makes his exit plans.

 

Hah. I love the family already.                                                                                                     

Date: 2011-11-06 04:37 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Alas for Inferno, Torpedo's pimp hand is mighty indeed.

bwahaha okay, that made me spittake. but isn't the pimp hand a backhand?

Date: 2011-11-06 04:52 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Her pimp hand is so mighty she has reversed its positronic flow to enable the quarks to manipulate tachyons and zoop zoop yah puddin pops doh hoh hoh.

Date: 2011-11-06 05:00 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Hope Silly)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Damit glprime are you drinking and posting again? :D

Date: 2011-11-06 05:02 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
I've been scripting all day! I'm tired and I want to play Fallout 3!

(and I don't drink)

Date: 2011-11-06 05:03 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Teehee. I love to drink :D

Date: 2011-11-06 05:21 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Gaming is my antidrug.

Date: 2011-11-06 05:28 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Manhunter)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I've drank and gamed :D not often, but it happens, usually when a game is pissing me off

Date: 2011-11-06 08:20 am (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
Suddenly a drunk playthrough of Metroid: Other M sounds like something I must one day do.

Date: 2011-11-06 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] theredhood
Are you kiddos kidding? Drunk gaming is the best gaming! Also? Pac-Man Championship Edition DX whilst on E will change your LIFE.

Also, NEW VEGAS. What is this Fallout 3 nonsense I'm hearing?

Date: 2011-11-06 10:15 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
It's called "the developers were really half-assing it and released a seriously broken, but beautiful sandbox game with super-gore and post-apocalypse wasteland adventures".

(the Bethesda pack was on sale on Steam and I was weak)

Date: 2011-11-06 04:56 am (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
It's whatever hand she SAYS it is, and don't you give her no lip!

Date: 2011-11-06 05:02 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (dead waynes shock)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I'm sorry mistresses, please don't hurt me with your beautifully manicured pimp hand

Date: 2011-11-06 09:16 am (UTC)
blunderbuss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blunderbuss
Wait a goddamn second. Those bad guys are going to places of honest-to-god genocides so they can make a weapon against the Amazons? Seriously? Seriously?

Jesus christ, DC, there's ways of using real life tragedies in comics and THIS IS NOT HOW.

That said, I do like the moral quandry brought up in that first scan - what do you do with all those old-world monsters who have to feed on people to survive? It's not exactly their fault, now is it?

Date: 2011-11-06 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] theredhood
Leave them alone, unless they attempt to eat you; in which case you defend yourself. Same way we handle Sharks. Nobody cries when someone offs a Shark.

Date: 2011-11-06 11:40 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: bat (pic#364830)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
But we don't leave sharks alone. We kill millions of them each year, be it industrial fishing, or long line or simply for the fins. We've already put some species as close to extinction as minotaurs are. *battear*

Date: 2011-11-06 12:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] endis_ni
I find I have a Pavlovian reaction to the Bat Tear- now I have to roll some pearls along a darkened pavement in flashback.

Date: 2011-11-06 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredneil.livejournal.com
If they have to feed on people, then it's an "us or them" situation. "Leave them alone and they'll leave us alone" isn't an option.

Date: 2011-11-06 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Do they need to eat humans, specifically, or is it just that they think we taste best? If the latter, bloody their nose every time they try, until they decide that beef and pork aren't so bad after all. If it's the former, it gets more complicated. I'd suggest some form of market exchange, where people can sell their bodies in the event of their deaths, either directly to minotaurs or to some of company with the facilities to feed them and sell them on to the minotaurs as demand dictates. Perhaps supplimented by nonsentient cloned human meat.

Date: 2011-11-06 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredneil.livejournal.com
Well, the comment I was replying to said they had to feed on people to survive, so I'd guess the latter, not that the first is any better. If we're talking about sentient beings who could not feed on people but choose to anyway, the appropriate response would be much stronger than a bloody nose or fighting them off. If a human being behaved that way, that person would end up either dead or imprisoned for life, depending on the jurisdiction.

If they need to eat humans, people are going to die while the details of this exchange are being worked out and all minotaurs agree to it. In effect, your suggestion asks that humans as a whole value their own lives less than those of minotaurs. Complicating the issue is that your suggestion might be illegal in some places and with good reason. This being the DCU, it's not hard to imagine someone killing people and selling their remains with forged contracts saying those people sold their bodies.

Date: 2011-11-07 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
" If we're talking about sentient beings who could not feed on people but choose to anyway, the appropriate response would be much stronger than a bloody nose or fighting them off. If a human being behaved that way, that person would end up either dead or imprisoned for life, depending on the jurisdiction."

Well, where it gets complicated is the question of whether we're dealing with individual monsters or polities composed of the monstrous beings. If it's the former, then yeah, imprison them. If the latter, and it's a trend among them, but not universal, then it gets a lot trickier. I'm uncomfortable with the idea of the genocide of an entire intelligent species based on anything less than the actions of each individual of that species, so that leaves trying to punish the specific culprits, which if the polity as a whole is uncooperative, means a broader conflict with the polity as a whole. Assert superior force (if you can, if not you're pretty much screwed here whatever you try to do) and make the polity see that the cons of not cooperating with you in restraining the individual members responsible for eating people far outweigh the pros.

"If they need to eat humans, people are going to die while the details of this exchange are being worked out and all minotaurs agree to it. In effect, your suggestion asks that humans as a whole value their own lives less than those of minotaurs."

I'm suggesting that humans are exceedingly good at producing what minotaurs need to eat, of our own voilition and without minotaur interference. Granted, yes, this relies on the minotaurs being willing to open negotiations before they start picking random people and start munching on them. If this isn't the case, see Option A, bloody their noses until they're hungry enough and hurt enough that they'll see reason.


"Complicating the issue is that your suggestion might be illegal in some places and with good reason. This being the DCU, it's not hard to imagine someone killing people and selling their remains with forged contracts saying those people sold their bodies."

Well, this would only be an expansion of the existing market for dead bodies. Between organ donations, biomedical research, and body farms where they just leave corpses laying around to gather information on the speed and ways in which they decay (for forensic reasons) there'd already be people doing that in the DC universe. It'd be like banning organ donations because someone might kill someone and forge papers showing them as an organ donor.

Date: 2011-11-07 12:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eyz
I liked that mini^^
I said it already on the past posts, I know :P

Makes me fear how DC will retcon or redesign Red Tornado in the DCnU..

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