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Since we've had all those spirited discussions about Hope's criticism of Xavier's school; and then contrasted with Dani's criticism of both Logan and Scott's position after Schism; I thought it'd be interesting to post some other scans from Generation Hope; right at the start of Schism, which explores the History of mutants, as a counterpoint:

It starts with Idie being surprised by the idea that stopping Sentinels is the thing to do; since she views herself as a mutants as a monster. Laurie tries to explain that Sentinels aren't really for protecting humans from evil mutants.





I hadn't noticed at the time, but in retrospect with all this discussion - oh, Hope, honey. You really should be more interested in the past.

Laurie and Idie go to the museum, and they find Kenji already here (he came early to see the old Sentinel's design, cuz it's a classic. (Kenji cracks me up, have I mentioned that before? :))



While Laurie and Kenji continue their discussion, Idie wanders in the museum and finds Prodigy in front of a portrait of Stryker, saying: "I know that people like him have to be here. It's part of the story. Doesn't mean I like it much."



And he ends with "but you know the sickest thing of all? It could be worse."





And then the attack against the X-Men at the museum happens and Idie is alone to be able to stop it.


But Hope knew all about that, right?

Date: 2011-11-12 10:21 pm (UTC)
biod: (Sad Batman)
From: [personal profile] biod
I don't care about the spikes. Let me hug you, Rachel!
It's going to be allright.

Date: 2011-11-12 10:30 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
I wonder how sharp the spikes are. They aren't remotely combat-useful, and you don't want your Hounds to actually hurt themselves, right?

Date: 2011-11-12 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
i dunno, maybe body tackling the victim they were hunting was considered an actual possible result of their tracking?

Date: 2011-11-12 10:54 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Mutant: "Oh no, it's the Hounds!"

Hound: "HUGZ!"

Date: 2011-11-12 11:02 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
A backhanded slap from one of them would be pretty bloody painful though.

Date: 2011-11-13 05:23 am (UTC)
kamino_neko: Kamino Neko's default icon... (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Don't laugh, it's an effective strategy.

Better when the one doing the Bear Hug O'Doom has rather more significant strength than Rachel's got, but still... (Was a favourite tactic of one of my RP characters, once he got some spiked armour. Bull rush, bear hug, and ape shit were his three animal totems. :p)

Date: 2011-11-13 08:15 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Looking at her costume, the bear hug wouldn't do much damage, since the spikes are on the outside of her arms, not the inside.

Date: 2011-11-13 08:35 am (UTC)
kamino_neko: Kamino Neko's default icon... (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
The ones on the torso (which really ought be longer for the BHOD, but I'm just dealing in hypotheticals here, anyway) would be the chief ones used - the arms serve mostly to push the victim into them (and deal some crushing damage of their own). Again, this is assuming someone more like Colossus as a Hound than Rachel, there, who's not exactly a body builder.

Date: 2011-11-13 08:45 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
True about the chest spikes, and don't forget she is a VERY powerful telekinetic, and can use that to boost her strength (Alan Davis in particular used to show her use the Phoenix wing effect as extensions of her arms to pick up heavy objects)

Date: 2011-11-13 09:00 am (UTC)
kamino_neko: Kamino Neko's evil icon. (Evil)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
'Course, by the same token, with her TK level, using it to shove someone into her chest spikes is kind of gilding the lily.

(OTOH, when you're as strong as Alf, the same thing applies, I suppose, and it's just FUN to do it that way.)

... This whole post sounded rather less psycho in my head. >_>

Date: 2011-11-13 11:12 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
OTOH, when you're as strong as Alf, the same thing applies

Ummm, the orange fuzzy guy from Melmac?

Date: 2011-11-13 08:25 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Kamino Neko's giggly icon. (Giggly)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Hah. Alf was the RP character I mentioned earlier who enjoyed using the BHOD. He was essentially an orcish version of Marv from Sin City, so his strength, like Rachel's TK, was a formidable weapon all on its own, but he just liked using the spikes.

(He was kind of fuzzy, though...to the extent that wiry hair with barbed wire braided into it can be called 'fuzzy'.)

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