Date: 2011-11-17 02:25 pm (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
Yeah, the Zeus thing turned out to be an utter letdown. Here I was expecting something epic and interesting (which with this creative team isn't an unrealistic expectation) and instead just got "yeah, I fucked this dude and lied about it, sorry". No deeper meaning, just complete abandonment of her old origin.

Hopefully something interesting will come from the fallout, but at the moment I am disappoint.

Date: 2011-11-17 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hybrid2
And her ssters where making fun of her by calling her clay?

complete nosenses.

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Date: 2011-11-17 03:19 pm (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
I do like how Strife has just sorta attached herself to the group. Presumably she's amused by this whole business.

Date: 2011-11-17 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
She's basically a hot, houte-couture troll following them around.

"Hey, Diana! You thought you was made of clay? Dumbass--your mom got knocked up by Zeus! Trolololololol--"

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Date: 2011-11-17 03:22 pm (UTC)
eyz: (Martian Manhunter)
From: [personal profile] eyz
I just love this new take on WW...why couldn't we had this right from the start instead of Straczynski "reboot"?...

Date: 2011-11-17 06:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
What we needed was more of Gail's run...

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Date: 2011-11-17 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lonewolf23k
I want to go back to Straczynski's version. At least that was respectful of what Wonder Woman symbolized and who she was.

This? This is Rule 63 Hercules.

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Date: 2011-11-17 04:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] biod
Digging Wondy, not so much the origin.

Date: 2011-11-17 06:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
The origin dropped this from 'monthly' to 'tradewait' status for me.

Date: 2011-11-18 02:19 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Motto

Date: 2011-11-17 05:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrosa
I wanted Promeathe to be more influential, but not like this...

Date: 2011-11-17 07:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] midnightvoyager
Still not interested.

Also, that last shot of Wondy is TERRIBLY not flattering.

Date: 2011-11-17 07:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tauruschick12
welp it was too much to hope for them to go with the DCAU's version of 'I made you out of clay, but this one male god helped me make it' huh

they had to go with the 'yup I fucked him' thing

well I suppose I should be thankful Hippolyta wasn't raped by Zeus, and that it was consensual sex with Zeus that produced Diana I guess

*sigh*

Date: 2011-11-17 09:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flash_fan
Am I the only one who is terribly in love with this book? I've always loved Wonder Woman as a character but rarely enjoyed her in comics; she usually is just shoved in there between Bruce and Clark and her own books bored me with few exceptions. Yet, there is something about this book that just makes me think Wonder Woman has a purpose. She stops snobby gods from toying with mortals like puppets she IS as important as Batman and Superman if not more significant. I just love how she's portrayed here. Beautiful yet strong, her costume could have a little more Greek influence but overall I love this book.

Date: 2011-11-18 12:43 am (UTC)
nezchan: Navis at breakfast (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
I love the book, and it's the first incarnation of WW that I've picked up on a monthly basis and plan to continue. I just feel "jumped in bed with Zeus" is one of the least good storytelling choices they could have made there. I am interested in seeing fallout from finding out her mother lied to her though, not to mention what being a demigod brings to the table and how Other Mother is going to jump.

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Date: 2011-11-17 09:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jeyl
I never liked how a majority of the women in the new DC Universe have been nothing but fu** buddies to the male characters, but I had no idea they would actually use that term as an origin story for their #1 female character.

"Wonder Woman is the child of a God"

A god who has done absolutely nothing but have sex with most of the female characters in this story. That's not epic. That's Seth Rogen's next comedy. Now we have a Diana who was born probably by accident because her mother just can't resist godly co** instead of being created out of pure, longing love that stemmed from her previous life when she was murdered while pregnant.

I also don't like how Wonder Woman handles issues with violence, especially towards her fellow Amazons. This Wonder Woman has almost no compassion, no sense on sincerity and no lust for life. All I see is a person who wants to be angry and wants to hurt people.

Date: 2011-11-17 11:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meowshi
"I never liked how a majority of the women in the new DC Universe have been nothing but fu** buddies to the male characters."

Birds of Prey? Batwoman? Wonder Woman? Every female character in Demon Knights?

Honestly, I think the DCnU has several strong female characters. Besides the exception of Starfire and mayyybe Harley, I can't even think of another character I would describe the way you have. Definitely not even Selina.

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Date: 2011-11-17 10:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Hrrmph. Well In know what's going in my next installment of Cringeworthy Comics Moments.

Something that maks this revelation really unpleasant...er.

Date: 2011-11-17 11:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meowshi
Well besides Diana's costume, I think these three issues have been fantastic. Some of my favorites, actually. Still sort of wish she looked more like Exoristos, but I get the need for iconic costumes...

Date: 2011-11-18 12:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
I don't think they needed to retcon zeus as her father, but ia am, still loving this book. She is strong, and powerful and wonder woman

Date: 2011-11-18 01:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jeyl
Just lacking in compassion and good heartedness.

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Date: 2011-11-18 12:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] turtlefu
Anybody who read Perez and Rucka's runs should be sincerely disappointed with this. This is not Wonder Woman. There is no compassion, no love, no great inner strength. This is Warrior Woman. A violent reboot of Wonder Woman to make her appeal to men who thought that Wonder Woman wasn't accessible because she didn't have a father! OH BOO HOO.
Well, DC, I guess you won. You have more readers now and she's more "accessible" but at what cost?
Isn't it funny how DC is perfectly willing to throw its female characters under the bus for sales?

Date: 2011-11-18 02:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thespis
This. Oh-so-much this.

I really hate how the DC reboot is screwing over all my favourite female characters.

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Date: 2011-11-18 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I don't like this at all.

Date: 2011-11-18 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
DCnu is really bad with relationships overall

Date: 2011-11-18 05:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] golden_orange
Honestly, I'm not really understanding the hate here. Maybe it's because I'm not particularly wedded to the old Wonder Woman or the old origin, but I think this is a perfectly fine approach to take. I like it.

Date: 2011-11-18 09:36 am (UTC)
golden_orange: trust me, i'm wearing a vegetable. (Default)
From: [personal profile] golden_orange
I did like how the redhead-Amazon-who-I'm-pretty-certain-isn't-Artemis-and-who-doesn't-like-Diana-much had her little moment of inciting the other Amazons to rise up against Diana well-and-truly undermined when Diana just slugged her one without listening to any of it.

Date: 2011-11-18 12:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jeyl
Because random acts of violence towards others is obviously a strong character trait.

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Date: 2011-11-19 08:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kaete
I could possibly live with Zeus being shoe-horned in the story and the loss of a unique origin for turning Diana into Hercules-lite, but the old "HOW COULD YOU BETRAY ME MOTHER?" is so incredibly cliche and boring. And it's been done so many times in WW, I just can't stand it any more.

It's like comic writers (and let's be fair, most writers in general) have ZERO CLUE how to write a healthy relationship between mothers and daughters. There's plenty of amazing father/son relationships in fiction. Mother/daughters invariably end up in negative relationships.

It's sad and frustrating and it's killing my interest in a series that I really wanted to enjoy.

Date: 2011-11-19 11:11 am (UTC)
jeyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeyl
"but the old "HOW COULD YOU BETRAY ME MOTHER?" is so incredibly cliche and boring."

What gets a laugh out of me is how the comic fails in trying to depic Hippolyta as being sympathetic and nurtering towards Diana when she reveals the truth.... by going into a very detailed explanation on how screwing Zeus was so glorious and awesome. If Hippolyta had simply said yes to the fact that Diana is the daughter of Zues, at least that would have sufficed enough and leave room for interpretation that she still wanted a daughter, but no. She has to go into a long detailed description about their lustful relationship in such detail that it was all about pleasure and lust and not about Diana at all. And this comic wants me to sympathize with her.

*head desk*

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