espanolbot: (pic#364881)espanolbot ([personal profile] espanolbot) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily,
@ 2011-11-27 01:13 am UTC
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Entry tags:char: black bat/batgirl/cassandra cain, title: batgirl
AKA Dave teaches MiniCass freerunning!







Oddly this fits with City of Light, but not from the usual canon. I mean, I thought that point of her rejection of killing came from seeing someone die for the first time? Or maybe it was because it was her doing it in closerange, as opposed to someone else doing it whilst she watched from a rooftop?

Also, was this scene cut from the trade? I'm sure it wasn't in it, which makes me worried about what other things they've editted out if that's the case.

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shadowpsykie: Information (Oracle)


[personal profile] shadowpsykie
2011-11-27 01:40 am UTC (link)
yeah it was the fact that SHE herself did the killing AND was more or less empathically connected to him at the time...

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blue_bolt: Fat Watcher (pic#764835)

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[personal profile] blue_bolt
2011-11-27 02:13 am UTC (link)
I can't read anything involving her past and not want to hold her tight and say "it's okay, it's okay. You won't have to hurt anyone ever again. It's okay."

On a seperate note, this is a great example of a tragic heroine with no rape in her background. I hate how some many tragic heroines seem to be the result of rape.

For me Power Girl, Batwoman, Oracle (does she exist in the New 52?) and Huntress are great in part because of their lack of "rape as backstory." I hate it when writers retcon that in just to make a character more tragic.

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lieut_kettch: (pic#469036)

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[personal profile] lieut_kettch
2011-11-27 07:43 am UTC (link)
I think Babs was Oracle for three years after being shot in the DCnU. The new Batgirl series has her as just being off the wheelchair.

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icon_uk: (Sonny Strait Nightwing)

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[personal profile] icon_uk
2011-11-27 08:40 am UTC (link)
She's mentioned the wheelchair, but has she mentioned being Oracle?

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lieut_kettch: (casssexxy)

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[personal profile] lieut_kettch
2011-11-27 10:05 am UTC (link)
Cass and Laura (Kinney) can swap "childhood stolen and turned into a brutal training montage" stories.

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espanolbot: (pic#364881)

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[personal profile] espanolbot
2011-11-27 10:21 am UTC (link)
Considering Laura was their attempt to cash in on Cass, though wouldn't be too suprising.

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jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Batgirl, Cassandra Cain)

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[personal profile] jaybee3
2011-11-27 10:14 pm UTC (link)
I've always been astonished at how far Marvel has gone into pushing X-23 into an A-Lister (and I think they've done a good job at it) while DC has their own version of that kind of character set within their biggest franchise and tied to their biggest seller (much like Laura and Wolverine) and yet DC has treated Cass like some kind of misfit, or red-headed stepchild and outright disrespected at every turn (despite being probably their most successful Women of Color heroine ever, carrying a solo title for 73 issues).

Just from a sales/marketing/business perspective I've never really understood DC's treatment of Cassandra (a cute teenage Asian ninja girl who is the adopted daughter of Batman sells itself) which is why I do believe there are certain segments at Editorial at DC (Dan Didio foremost) who just don't like the character.

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[personal profile] arilou_skiff
2011-11-28 01:28 am UTC (link)
Eh, considering her origins. (IE: Created for the X-men: Evolution cartoon) I suspect it was more a "create a teenage Wolverine to fit in with the rest of the cast" thing.

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bariman: by perletwo (Super Bat Kon)

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[personal profile] bariman
2011-11-27 03:26 pm UTC (link)
If they ever did Amalgam Comics 2.0, I betcha Cass and Laura would be the first combo on the list.

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lieut_kettch: (casssexxy)

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2011-11-27 03:33 pm UTC (link)
Cassandra Kinney, The Dark Claw's daughter!

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[personal profile] mister_cairo
2011-11-27 09:15 am UTC (link)
I always figured it was a proximity thing - the closer she is to a person, the subtler the movement she can read and the more nuance she picks up.

To really get the full horror of the death experience, enough to traumatise her to such an extent that she'd leave Cain, she needed to be right on top of the guy.

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2011-11-27 10:23 pm UTC (link)
Makes sense. Especially when she's young.

She got to look into his *eyes* while he was dying.

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2011-11-27 06:45 pm UTC (link)
Makes me hate comic BigDaddy all the more...

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2011-11-28 03:00 am UTC (link)
A lot of people have tried to cash in on Cass' popularity, but they all seem to miss what it was that made her so interesting in the first place. Plus a character like her, is like shock value, it gets you the first time, but after that, not so much.

Plus, despite her horrible youth, she's still the nicer than her clones.

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