Once again, Dean Winchester on Supernatural and Spike on Buffy.
Both those character's appeal is halfway built on their inner vulnerability.
Hell, half the reason why spuffy is so popular is because they twisted gender roles. Where Buffy was the stoic hero, and Spike was the needy love interest with his heart on his chest. They even visualize it that in many of their sex scenes, she's the one fully dressed, and he's the one who's fully naked. He's the one who gets the sexy poses, and has the gaze of the audience turned on his looks while she gets the action poses.
As for Supernatural, Dean is very much shown as the caretaker, and gets the lingering gazes. (hell so does Sam, there's a reason fans love to rewatch certain scenes in slow motion)
Sure he's your manly man, but he's also the guy who gets the line about liking pink silk panties. Half of fandom loves to see him hurt, broken, with that single tear that's always shot in such a way that it makes him look prettier. And yes, in this case, pretty is the right word to use.
We get to see their vulnerability, their insecurity and that's why they're so popular, well that and the looks... . Maybe I'm wrong in what you mean with acceptable ways of showing male vulnerability, but still, spn is one of the few shows where there's a clear undercurrent of both male leads having been raped and still carrying the mental scars of it.
Poses. We were discussing poses/vulnerable poses, divorced from context and inner-goings. So plot lines that make X male character vulnerable don't go into it. (Because again, imo, these are common enough. And they tend to be padded by a lot of masculinity. "He is crying this one time, but look how badasss and manly he is and looks the other 99,5% of the time!!!)
If there are promos used for magazines and such of those actors looking like the men in the video posted above - hips outs, downcast eyes, half covering themselves, open mouth, looking self-conscious - then yes, very vulnerable. Really ballsy move for SPN.
... I really don't think "vulnerable" is a word that would come up to anyone's mind looking at any of those pics. But YMMV, I guess.
The vid above. The pictures in them. That's what I'm talking about. If there are examples of THAT for SPN promos (and I'm saying promos because they are divorced of context, not the same for screenshots), then yes. Ballsy.
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Date: 2011-12-01 02:19 pm (UTC)Both those character's appeal is halfway built on their inner vulnerability.
Hell, half the reason why spuffy is so popular is because they twisted gender roles. Where Buffy was the stoic hero, and Spike was the needy love interest with his heart on his chest. They even visualize it that in many of their sex scenes, she's the one fully dressed, and he's the one who's fully naked. He's the one who gets the sexy poses, and has the gaze of the audience turned on his looks while she gets the action poses.
As for Supernatural, Dean is very much shown as the caretaker, and gets the lingering gazes. (hell so does Sam, there's a reason fans love to rewatch certain scenes in slow motion)
Sure he's your manly man, but he's also the guy who gets the line about liking pink silk panties. Half of fandom loves to see him hurt, broken, with that single tear that's always shot in such a way that it makes him look prettier. And yes, in this case, pretty is the right word to use.
We get to see their vulnerability, their insecurity and that's why they're so popular, well that and the looks...
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Maybe I'm wrong in what you mean with acceptable ways of showing male vulnerability, but still, spn is one of the few shows where there's a clear undercurrent of both male leads having been raped and still carrying the mental scars of it.
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Date: 2011-12-01 02:48 pm (UTC)If there are promos used for magazines and such of those actors looking like the men in the video posted above - hips outs, downcast eyes, half covering themselves, open mouth, looking self-conscious - then yes, very vulnerable. Really ballsy move for SPN.
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Date: 2011-12-01 03:00 pm (UTC)http://www.wallpapergate.com/data/m
http://wallpaper.ultra-wallpapers.fr/im
Did a quick google check, and tried to take only those with actual promo pics in them, if I went for screencaps, I could probably come up with more.
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Date: 2011-12-01 03:07 pm (UTC)The vid above. The pictures in them. That's what I'm talking about. If there are examples of THAT for SPN promos (and I'm saying promos because they are divorced of context, not the same for screenshots), then yes. Ballsy.