scans_daily: First (Proper) Appearance of Steph Brown in the DCnU!

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@ 2011-12-09 12:06 am UTC

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char: spoiler/batgirl/robin/steph brown, creator: cameron stewart, creator: grant morrison, title: batman inc

First (Proper) Appearance of Steph Brown in the DCnU!

One coloured but unlettered page from Leviathan Strikes!

Hm, interesting, that skull faced girl at the back seems to be wearing a variation of Kathy Kane's Batwoman costume.
http://cameron-stewart.tumblr.com/post/13550255753/a-page-from-batman-incorporated-leviathan

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	no subject beoweasel 2011-12-09 04:39 am UTC (link)
	Maybe I've I've been on the Internet too long, but it seems to be invoking the 'Women in Peril' motif, which is a major fetish in the comic book community. So that's probably why it irks me. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 15 comments) (Show 15 comments)

	no subject aeka 2011-12-09 04:42 am UTC (link)
	Same. Maybe I'm just thinking I'd like to see the 'women in peril' trope used less often in comics, this being a reboot and all. Unrelated, but I love your icon. Where's it from? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject beoweasel 2011-12-09 04:54 am UTC (link)
	Not entirely sure! I know it's of Throg, the Frog of Thunder, but I have no idea where the image came from originally, all I know is that I brazenly stole the icon from somebody in this Community awhile back. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject aeka 2011-12-09 04:59 am UTC (link)
	Found it. Either way, it's made of awesome. :) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject beoweasel 2011-12-09 05:02 am UTC (link)
	I figured it was from Lockjaw and the Pet Avengers, but wasn't sure which issue. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject salinea 2011-12-09 02:02 pm UTC (link)
	I'm just feeling uneasy seeing a woman with dark skin with a noose round her neck, myself. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject autohobbs 2011-12-09 09:50 pm UTC (link)
	Wha..? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject salinea 2011-12-09 10:05 pm UTC (link)
	the girl next to Steph? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject autohobbs 2011-12-09 09:50 pm UTC (link)
	If anyone is in Peril on that page, I'd say it would be the people going up against Steph. She's constantly in Danger, like all Supes, it's just part of the job. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 7 comments) (Show 7 comments)

	no subject beoweasel 2011-12-09 10:53 pm UTC (link)
	That's...really not the point. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 6 comments) (Show 6 comments)

	no subject autohobbs 2011-12-11 11:21 pm UTC (link)
	I seem to have missed it then...? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 5 comments) (Show 5 comments)

	no subject beoweasel 2011-12-12 01:54 am UTC (link)
	The problem with Peril scenarios, isn't that the woman is in danger, it's the fact that it's being sexualized. It's fetishizing violence against women, and that's creepy. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject autohobbs 2011-12-13 12:19 am UTC (link)
	This situation is being sexualized??? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

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beoweasel
2011-12-13 12:43 am UTC (link)

It's skirting the line (if you forgive the pun), it's not like they're being blatant, with Steph and the other girl being in their underwear, and the other girls wearing latex dominatrix outfits, but I can certainly understand why other people find this scene problematic or uncomfortable.

And as someone pointed out, showing a black girl with a noose around her neck is just...ew.

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	no subject espanolbot 2011-12-13 12:45 am UTC (link)
	I think that she's meant to be south Asian, though I could be wrong. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject autohobbs 2011-12-13 08:55 am UTC (link)
	I think it would racist to exclude specific races from a situation like that. I kind sort of see where you're coming from, but I guess I just don't see skin colors like others do. Everyone just looks the same to me. (multiracial family) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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