Date: 2011-12-14 10:26 pm (UTC)
mrosa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrosa
Is she dreaming this or what?

Date: 2011-12-14 10:32 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
art so pretty, and no major spoilers, yay :D

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Date: 2011-12-14 10:33 pm (UTC)
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This sequence was SO overwrought! While the writer fixates on Babs' physical recovery, she ends the issue having a chat with the roommate who should not exist and acts completely as if TKJ had never happened!

Date: 2011-12-14 10:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
It's a dream, aren't they usually a bit over-wrought.

Date: 2011-12-14 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Why shouldn't her roommate exist? And how does she act like TKJ never happened?

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Date: 2011-12-14 11:40 pm (UTC)
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After the disaster of #3, I was going to check this one out to see how they were going to handle this whole "miracle" thing involving Barbara's ability to walk. After seeing this, oh boy. My mind is made up. Back in the previous issues, I found that Inner monologuing can become one the laziest story writing techniques if not handled properly. Not only was it not handled properly with Batgirl, it was setting records in how many inner monologue boxes you can have in a page. It almost felt like an overly worded web comic where the writer couldn't figure out how to properly convey situations outside of just using words to describe it.

And than we get this crap. Issue #4 where her inner monologues take on a reality of it's own. This time focusing on that gawddang wheelchair... Remember how I said that this new take was an attempt to show why Barbara Gordon should be Batgirl, and I said it was doing the exact opposite? THIS IS WHY. This whole "walking again is a miracle" nonsense is insulting. Walking again isn't a so much miracle when you survive a FREAKING GUN SHOT at point blank range. That's what should be the issue here, because gunshots generally kill people. Not using wheelchairs. But that's not what's going on here. It's because she's able to walk again that's the problem. Did she not inner-monologue in issue #1 that being in a wheel chair wasn't such a bad thing? And that people unintentionally think that it's a burden when in fact it's not? Than why this? Why should being out of a wheel chair make her feel guilty when she knows herself that it's not such a burden for other people who are in wheelchairs? I remember when I was called out for saying "bound to a wheelchair" because that was insensitive. Than what's this? This story is trying to sell us on walking is as guilt ridden as surviving a gun shot. Those are two completely different things.

I have officially dropped this comic. But don't worry. Our new, "doesn't work without a man" Wonder Woman will have good company.

Date: 2011-12-15 12:02 am (UTC)
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... i don't even know how to respond to this....

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Date: 2011-12-15 12:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mullon
Fuck this. Fuck this for wasting an issue so Gail can have Barbara shoot down a legitimate complaint people had with this whole mess. It's bad enough that DC did this, but dwelling on it is wasting everyone's time and money.

Date: 2011-12-15 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
you know I'd rather it just be Bat-mite who fixed her spine. Because he wouldn't ask, would think he was helping and you wouldn't ask him to undo it because he might screw up and make it worse

Date: 2011-12-15 12:43 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Was it somehow standard that Oracle was always wearing a green shirt? Just wondering.

Date: 2011-12-15 01:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] promethea4
She didn't always wear green, but I think it was the color usually associated with her (masks, screens, dialogue boxes, etc.)

Date: 2011-12-15 07:01 am (UTC)
brooms: the chance of life afresh annihilating me (goddess)
From: [personal profile] brooms
i feel like it's standard red-head pet color in comics.

Date: 2011-12-15 03:52 am (UTC)
quatoria: An extreme close-up of my eye, with the blade of a knife just barely touching the bottom edge of my pupil. (knife)
From: [personal profile] quatoria
Speaking as someone who actually is disabled, and has serious issues walking most days: fuck this maudlin bullshit. Holy hell have I had enough of it. This is legitimately everything I was afraid this comic would be.

Date: 2011-12-15 08:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] junipepper
word.

Date: 2011-12-15 05:27 am (UTC)
tauruschick12: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tauruschick12
...this comic is making my head throb.

Date: 2011-12-15 05:52 am (UTC)
superfangirl1: (Default)
From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
I really enjoy the art. :)

Date: 2011-12-15 10:57 am (UTC)
mrosa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrosa
"Why can't you LOOK at yourself?"

When I read that, and Babs having a talk with herself, it made me think it'd be hilarious if Babs had developed split personality and now she were the Mirror, going around killing people because they didn't deserve their miracles.

Call it crazy, but it could just save the series due to its quotient of silliness.

Date: 2011-12-15 12:41 pm (UTC)
jeyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeyl
Yeah, but killing people for just seeing a doctor isn't exactly what I would call a miracle.

Date: 2011-12-15 01:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thespis
...



Let's focus on the bright side: In a year or two, DC will probably just re-reboot this whole thing and all this will just be an unpleasant memory.

Goddammit, I miss Oracle.

Date: 2011-12-16 01:14 am (UTC)
jeyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeyl
Can't we just go back to Stephanie? Or Cassandra Cain? I don't want a reboot. I want to continue what I thought was real solid work.

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Date: 2011-12-15 06:40 pm (UTC)
jeyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeyl
Well, shoot. Now I've done it.

Date: 2011-12-16 01:44 pm (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
DUN DUN DUUUUN!
What a twist!

honestly, I'm expecting Oracle to be back under a year, tops... I mean, when Babs' sales will be at their lowest, shuffling the titular character and cast around will bring some heat back.. (and, SQUEEEEE, Cass & Steph hopefully!!)

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