scans_daily: Batgirl #4

Diane Darcy (

aeka) wrote in

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@ 2011-12-14 03:35 pm UTC

Entry tags:

char: batgirl/oracle/barbara gordon, creator: gail simone, title: batgirl

Batgirl #4

Batgirl has an interesting chat with....Oracle?

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	no subject mrosa 2011-12-14 10:26 pm UTC (link)
	Is she dreaming this or what? (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject aeka 2011-12-14 10:30 pm UTC (link)
	Yes. Yes she is. :3 (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-12-14 10:32 pm UTC (link)
	art so pretty, and no major spoilers, yay :D (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject aeka 2011-12-14 10:57 pm UTC (link)
	Yay! Though truthfully I don't think anything too significant happened in this issue that could really be considered a major spoiler...except for the ending maybe. :P (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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	no subject kenn_el 2011-12-14 10:33 pm UTC (link)
	This sequence was SO overwrought! While the writer fixates on Babs' physical recovery, she ends the issue having a chat with the roommate who should not exist and acts completely as if TKJ had never happened! (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 11 comments) (Show 11 comments)

	no subject icon_uk 2011-12-14 10:43 pm UTC (link)
	It's a dream, aren't they usually a bit over-wrought. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject darkknightjrk 2011-12-14 11:41 pm UTC (link)
	Why shouldn't her roommate exist? And how does she act like TKJ never happened? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 9 comments) (Show 9 comments)

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jeyl
2011-12-14 11:40 pm UTC (link)

After the disaster of #3, I was going to check this one out to see how they were going to handle this whole "miracle" thing involving Barbara's ability to walk. After seeing this, oh boy. My mind is made up. Back in the previous issues, I found that Inner monologuing can become one the laziest story writing techniques if not handled properly. Not only was it not handled properly with Batgirl, it was setting records in how many inner monologue boxes you can have in a page. It almost felt like an overly worded web comic where the writer couldn't figure out how to properly convey situations outside of just using words to describe it.

And than we get this crap. Issue #4 where her inner monologues take on a reality of it's own. This time focusing on that gawddang wheelchair... Remember how I said that this new take was an attempt to show why Barbara Gordon should be Batgirl, and I said it was doing the exact opposite? THIS IS WHY. This whole "walking again is a miracle" nonsense is insulting. Walking again isn't a so much miracle when you survive a FREAKING GUN SHOT at point blank range. That's what should be the issue here, because gunshots generally kill people. Not using wheelchairs. But that's not what's going on here. It's because she's able to walk again that's the problem. Did she not inner-monologue in issue #1 that being in a wheel chair wasn't such a bad thing? And that people unintentionally think that it's a burden when in fact it's not? Than why this? Why should being out of a wheel chair make her feel guilty when she knows herself that it's not such a burden for other people who are in wheelchairs? I remember when I was called out for saying "bound to a wheelchair" because that was insensitive. Than what's this? This story is trying to sell us on walking is as guilt ridden as surviving a gun shot. Those are two completely different things.

I have officially dropped this comic. But don't worry. Our new, "doesn't work without a man" Wonder Woman will have good company.

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	no subject shadowpsykie 2011-12-15 12:02 am UTC (link)
	... i don't even know how to respond to this.... (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 17 comments) (Show 17 comments)

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	no subject mullon 2011-12-15 12:21 am UTC (link)
	Fuck this. Fuck this for wasting an issue so Gail can have Barbara shoot down a legitimate complaint people had with this whole mess. It's bad enough that DC did this, but dwelling on it is wasting everyone's time and money. (Reply to this)

	no subject jlbarnett 2011-12-15 12:29 am UTC (link)
	you know I'd rather it just be Bat-mite who fixed her spine. Because he wouldn't ask, would think he was helping and you wouldn't ask him to undo it because he might screw up and make it worse (Reply to this)

	no subject starwolf_oakley 2011-12-15 12:43 am UTC (link)
	Was it somehow standard that Oracle was always wearing a green shirt? Just wondering. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject aeka 2011-12-15 12:50 am UTC (link)
	I guess?? I know she wore green a lot, and even her Oracle mascot was always usually green. :P (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject promethea4 2011-12-15 01:59 am UTC (link)
	She didn't always wear green, but I think it was the color usually associated with her (masks, screens, dialogue boxes, etc.) (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject brooms 2011-12-15 07:01 am UTC (link)
	i feel like it's standard red-head pet color in comics. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject quatoria 2011-12-15 03:52 am UTC (link)
	Speaking as someone who actually is disabled, and has serious issues walking most days: fuck this maudlin bullshit. Holy hell have I had enough of it. This is legitimately everything I was afraid this comic would be. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject junipepper 2011-12-15 08:02 am UTC (link)
	word. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject tauruschick12 2011-12-15 05:27 am UTC (link)
	...this comic is making my head throb. (Reply to this)

	no subject superfangirl1 2011-12-15 05:52 am UTC (link)
	I really enjoy the art. :) (Reply to this)

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mrosa
2011-12-15 10:57 am UTC (link)

"Why can't you LOOK at yourself?"

When I read that, and Babs having a talk with herself, it made me think it'd be hilarious if Babs had developed split personality and now she were the Mirror, going around killing people because they didn't deserve their miracles.

Call it crazy, but it could just save the series due to its quotient of silliness.

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	no subject jeyl 2011-12-15 12:41 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, but killing people for just seeing a doctor isn't exactly what I would call a miracle. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject thespis 2011-12-15 01:35 pm UTC (link)
	... Let's focus on the bright side: In a year or two, DC will probably just re-reboot this whole thing and all this will just be an unpleasant memory. Goddammit, I miss Oracle. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject jeyl 2011-12-16 01:14 am UTC (link)
	Can't we just go back to Stephanie? Or Cassandra Cain? I don't want a reboot. I want to continue what I thought was real solid work. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Expand) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

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	no subject jeyl 2011-12-15 06:40 pm UTC (link)
	Well, shoot. Now I've done it. (Reply to this)

	no subject eyz 2011-12-16 01:44 pm UTC (link)
	DUN DUN DUUUUN! What a twist! honestly, I'm expecting Oracle to be back under a year, tops... I mean, when Babs' sales will be at their lowest, shuffling the titular character and cast around will bring some heat back.. (and, SQUEEEEE, Cass & Steph hopefully!!) (Reply to this)

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