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Batwoman #4


Flamebird has managed to make her way to the blood-stained back alleys of Gotham City trying to prove herself. she gets slashed up by some super-villain wielding a chainsaw hook-hand. And who should find her bleeding to death in an abandoned warehouse? Agent Chase, the woman who is on a single-minded mission to unmask Batwoman.

Date: 2011-12-15 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Oh, that's just COLD. :O

Date: 2011-12-15 05:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
I thought Chase's "gig" was keeping tabs on superheroes and villains, not trying to suss out their secret identities.

Date: 2011-12-15 05:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Holy crap, I miss the likeable Cameron Chase from Manhunter and even her own series. This one is a heartless monster.

Date: 2011-12-15 05:19 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (manhunter and Rams)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
yeah... Cameron is cold here... but it's all about the job... i do miss the likeable cameron too.

at the same time, i hope this isn't the end of Flamebird's career.

honestly, i hope kate realizes she made a mistake the way she treated bette, yes bette made a mistake going out half cocked, but Kate was cruel in the way she treated her...

that said, Kate is STILL one of my favorite characters EVER!

Date: 2011-12-15 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] wtfomfg2
So, I'm guessing my wish that they'd actually portray Bette as a capable hero was just a pipe dream then?

Date: 2011-12-15 05:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aeka
Flamebird has managed to make her way to the blood-stained back alleys of Gotham City trying to prove herself. she gets slashed up by some super-villain wielding a chainsaw hook-hand.

Huh. So that's how Bette got injured. I had to take a second look cause my first read through this issue I couldn't make out how exactly she got injured so badly in the first place. Then again, I was probably more distracted by Kate having sex with the cop lady.

On an unrelated note...what is it with female heroines getting Bone-themed villains? (ie, Catwoman, Batwoman, Steph Brown, did I miss any)? Also is the "bonehead" in this book Black Mask? As in the same Black Mask Catwoman shot to death in the post-Crisis continuity?

Date: 2011-12-15 06:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverzeo
Poor Bette... being used like that...

Date: 2011-12-15 09:17 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
......................................................

*SIGH*..... wow..... i have no words for how this woman just won the dickery award.

Date: 2011-12-15 10:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
Paging Kate Spencer! There's an old friend of yours that needs some sense (and basic human decency) slapped back into her.

I'm guessing nuCam never had a Cape for a dad.

Date: 2011-12-15 10:23 am (UTC)
lieut_kettch: (megan)
From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
And that's why a cowl does more than protect your head. Kate's wig is a good idea as well.

Date: 2011-12-15 10:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Okay, so I'm kinda disappointed Williams III and Blackman decided to roll this way.. But at the same time, if we eventually get a scene with Bette kicking Chase's teeth in - then I guess that'll be satisfying.

Date: 2011-12-15 10:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrosa
Totally ruthless! This isn't the old Chase from the '90s, but perhaps she's more interesting like this.

Date: 2011-12-15 01:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Can someone explain the benefits to me of a Government agency going out of its way to go to war with Batman Inc? I mean...what exactly does the government hope to gain.

Date: 2011-12-15 02:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] r0b666
Gorgeous Art a always, but this is a bad paint by numbers story.

All of a sudden Flamebird (an at least competent fighter and hero for years) is not able to handle no-name "Alley thug with a sickle", just so we can have the plot device of Kate being all remorseful for kicking her out.

Couldn't they have at least gotten a C-List Bat Villain to do the deed if they had to go there?

It's just weak.

Date: 2011-12-15 03:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jaybee3
To be honest, Flamebird is one of the reasons I'm getting Batwoman (always liked Bette even in her Titans West days). It's tough to see an experienced crime fighter being treated by both Kate AND the writer as...well...a plebe.

And this is not the Cameron Chase I remember. Hopefully she gets the same amount of humiliation for this nasty piece of work that Katrina Armstrong/Spy Smasher got in Birds of Prey. The Bat-Crew usually protects itself.

Besides isn't Batman Inc. a well-known fact in the reboot? And that the man pulling the strings is Bruce Wayne, one of the richest and most powerful persons on the planet? And hasn't Agent Chase gotten chasten-ed (if you pardon the pun) by the Bat-Crew before? I distinctly remember Cass Cain chasing her (or an agent similar to her) out of Gotham several years ago.

Date: 2011-12-15 06:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] turtlefu
What's really odd, to me, is that JHWIII was co-writer for Chase in the 90's. And he's co-writer for Chase in this book now.

So why are the two portrayals so incongruous?

Date: 2011-12-15 10:49 pm (UTC)
biod: Cute Galactus (Default)
From: [personal profile] biod
This is a veteran vigilante! A flashy, somewhat campy one, but a veteran who still kicked a lot of ass when the occaision arose!
That Kate disrespected her, I could get. Writers are not their characters after all, but it seems like Williams is hellbent on neglecting to give Bette the respect she deserves.

Date: 2011-12-16 12:37 am (UTC)
jeyl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeyl
"Huh... Kate... Kate... Kane..."

Why you little! She did that on purpose!

Date: 2011-12-16 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
you know what'd be great? Chase is confronting Kate when Batwoman swings in. It'd be Barbara under the suit.

Date: 2011-12-16 01:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eyz
Great, strong book!

Easily the best New 52 book, be it in art, story, content, direction...even its connections to the past DCU pre-reboot!

All around, a fantastic gorgeous title!

Date: 2011-12-16 05:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
It seems like this title gets more and more cheesecakey with each issue... it's starting to feel a bit intrusive now.

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