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Found this over here.

It has to be said that the Sam Raimi Spider-Man Green Goblin is... not a terrific design.



The term "Power Ranger villain" has been thrown at the design more than once, and that seems to be almost insulting to some of the Power Ranger villains.


Amalgamated Dynamics Inc (an FX house) has put this up online, showing an earlier idea for Norman Osborne's other identity, and frankly, it creeps the hell out of me, which is surely what they Green Goblin should be!


And for legality, one of the most memorable Green Goblin covers, and a personal favourite of mine... can't think why! :)


Date: 2011-12-17 11:52 pm (UTC)
chocochuy: An Unliving Legend (Gentleman Ghost)
From: [personal profile] chocochuy
Hmm, it would have been great to have the Green Goblin sporting a dreadful appearance as the one shown in the video. I enjoyed watching the first Spiderman movie but always felt that the Green Goblin looked too cybernetic to my liking.

Ahh, that cover always puts the chills down my spine. A classic among classics.

Date: 2011-12-17 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sleepymax
That is really creepy. It's crazy to think that work like this never gets used. I definitely prefer this to the costume he had in the 2002 movie.

Date: 2011-12-18 12:07 am (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
Norman Osborn is always scarier than the Green Goblin

Date: 2011-12-18 12:16 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Batman & Robin)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Sad that this wasn't used. I think Raimi said it was because it was hard to believe that he would go out of his way to make such a mask in the film, etc but really...how much suspension of disbelief would it require?

Date: 2011-12-18 12:49 am (UTC)
tsunamiwombat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
Dafoe refused to wear it. Blame him.

Date: 2011-12-18 01:02 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Spidey & MJ)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
If that's the case then it was probably a combination of the two.

Given Dafoe wore fairly extensive makeup in Shadow of the Vampire, if that was all that was an issue, they probably could have reached some compromise.

Date: 2011-12-18 06:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rordulum
I think there would have been a fairly large suspension of disbelief needed. Why would the crazy industrialist design a complicated prosthetic that would also take lots of time and effort to put on, in the form of a goblin mask in order to commit crimes?

I'm with Raimi on this one. Not that I think the Goblin costume that appeared in the film was good, but it was more palatable to movie audiences than this one, in my opinion.

Date: 2011-12-19 12:10 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Spidey & MJ)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Well in the context of the current movie and characters, yeah, that might not be feasible. But they could have still found a way to fit something in.

I mean the film (or the novelization at least) established that Norman had a thing for collecting masks, just go on from there. It's not as if it has to be a complicated prosthetic in the context of the film even if that's what it is behind the scenes. Have him grab a mask, go on a spiel about how masks inspire fear in their enemies and that will probably satisfy most filmgoers.

Date: 2011-12-18 01:24 am (UTC)
deepspaceartist: Ed Robinson of Barnaked Ladies making a funny face behind Tyler Stewart (Default)
From: [personal profile] deepspaceartist
Honestly, I kinda prefer the one they used in the actual movie. I never really cared for the whole rubber mask turns into an expressive face thing the comics use.

Though it funny that you point out the oft-said 'Power Rangers Villain' criticism, than show a clip of the most Power-Rangery possible Green Goblin design. Heck, if you showed me the clip without context, I would have no trouble believeing it is, in fact, a Power Ranger villain.

The suit they used has a more Kamen Rider-esque feel to it, to keep up the tokusatsu comparison. And that's the kind of aesthetic I like to see in exo-suit designs.

Date: 2011-12-18 01:25 am (UTC)
liara_shadowsong: (Default)
From: [personal profile] liara_shadowsong
That really is quite terrifying. The problem is, though, that then we would probably *have* to have Norman do some sort of shapeshifting thing, because that face intentionally designed as a mask, in-universe in the specific context of the film, would probably require too much suspension of disbelief. I don't actually like the Power Ranger villain type of costume style for the Green Goblin, but I believe that it is probably a moderately more realistic take with the background story used.

Date: 2011-12-18 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lonewolf23k
The lifeless mask they used wasn't that bad, actually. But the whole ensemble DID come off rather "Power-Rangery". It would've been better if they added a hooded cloak, to emphasize the fearsome aspect of the character.

Date: 2011-12-18 02:59 am (UTC)
thanekos: Kouhei " Principal Garren " Hayami, the Libra Zodiarts, is bugged. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
Would've had an effect, certainly.

Date: 2011-12-18 01:32 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
I liked how the movie Goblin looked honestly, but that look in the video is damn good. Maybe in the later sequels in the reboot, that'll be the design we see.

Date: 2011-12-18 05:12 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Terra is Scared (TerraTerror)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
now think of the costume above with Dafoe's voice :D

Date: 2011-12-18 05:12 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
i don't know... it was kinda power rangery... (i love power rangers though :D but Dafoe WORKED IT!

Date: 2011-12-19 09:48 pm (UTC)
ar_feiniel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ar_feiniel
Even though I think the final mask made more sense...I do like that this would have allowed for some facial expressions. And the SFX ppl did a great job. I think it could have worked.

Date: 2011-12-20 11:10 am (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Oh, come on!
By getting the one we have in the finished movie, we missed such a badass more believable Goblin. Of course it doesn't look a thing like the one in the comic either, but so didn't the final product...

Power Ranger-wannabee...
...

There's also a pretty kickass Goblin that Alex Ross designed for the movie.

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