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bewareofgeek ([personal profile] bewareofgeek) wrote in [community profile] scans_daily2011-12-21 12:03

Leviathan Unmasked

HUGE Spoilers behind the cut for Batman: Leviathan Strikes. I'm not kidding here.


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[personal profile] aeka 2011-12-21 17:08 (UTC)(link)
Talia? Why am I not surprised. :/
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[personal profile] brooms 2011-12-21 17:14 (UTC)(link)
will they be keeping her around until july?
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[personal profile] protogarrett 2011-12-21 17:19 (UTC)(link)
Dun Dun YAWWWWWNNNN!
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[personal profile] wizardru 2011-12-21 17:43 (UTC)(link)
OMFG. I thought Ty Templeton was kidding.

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[personal profile] aeka 2011-12-21 17:49 (UTC)(link)
Hahaha, perfect response is perfect. ♥
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[personal profile] mrstatham 2011-12-21 18:04 (UTC)(link)
Except Talia was never 'dead or missing'. Morrison just had Damian leaving her side in Batman and Robin's 'Batman Versus Robin' arc, and it's not that much of a distinct change from how she's operated throughout his run anyway. If Batman Inc had been published the way it should, without this huge gap between issue eight and what became Leviathan Strikes, she wouldn't have even been away that long either.

[personal profile] darkknightjrk 2011-12-21 18:49 (UTC)(link)
They joke, but I would TOTALLY read a book about Jack Kirby's adventures in Dimension Thirteen.
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[personal profile] magus_69 2011-12-22 03:45 (UTC)(link)
One of these days, they will push Jack Kirby too far, and he will resurrect himself, and There Will Be Changes. Oh yes. There Will Be Changes.
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[personal profile] baihu 2011-12-22 11:52 (UTC)(link)
"KIRBY DOTS! EVERYWHERE!"
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[personal profile] eyz 2011-12-22 12:45 (UTC)(link)
Ha! I knew I shoulda kept checking out Ty's blog :P
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[personal profile] mrstatham 2011-12-21 18:01 (UTC)(link)
She's the only one who made any sense without Morrison bringing in someone entirely new. Jezebel Jet was dead - And the only reason Damian claims otherwise is what he's 'been told'. Morrison never seemed to like the idea of bringing Ra's Al Ghul back. And Nyssa Raatko was dead before Morrison even started his run.

In terms of someone who knows Bruce best, has the resources to put together something entirely opposite to Inc, it's her. It also ties in pretty darn well to Morrison's original Batman run and Batman and Robin, especially the latter.

[personal profile] jlbarnett 2011-12-21 18:44 (UTC)(link)
Inc was put together because of something Bruce saw while traveling through time and previous stories suggested Bruce working against something established, so Leviathan should not exist to counter Batman Inc.
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[personal profile] arbre_rieur 2011-12-21 18:46 (UTC)(link)
Unless it's a causal loop.

[personal profile] jlbarnett 2011-12-21 18:51 (UTC)(link)
Just another reason for the hero to be causing the problems he has to solve which I can't stand
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[personal profile] mrstatham 2011-12-21 18:48 (UTC)(link)
Okay, fine. Regardless, Talia already had a group going that was distinctly not the League of Assassins back in Batman and Robin. She's been splintered off from her father's group for a long while.
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[personal profile] biod 2011-12-21 18:13 (UTC)(link)
Is that Middle Eastern Batman?
Does that mean he's evil?
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[personal profile] shadowpsykie 2011-12-21 18:30 (UTC)(link)
i don't think there was a middle eastern batman. if there was it wasn't him, i recall this guy being one of the first "adversaries" batman fought in the Leviathan arc

[personal profile] darkknightjrk 2011-12-21 18:53 (UTC)(link)
He's called the Heretic. He was first shown in the Morrison/Finch one-shot Batman: The Return. In that story, Damian encounters him, and all Heretic does is say to him, "I know you...but...that day has yet to come. When it does...YOU will know ME." The popular theory is that he's the cloned Damian that we saw in the test tube in Batman & Robin.
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[personal profile] xammax 2011-12-21 19:52 (UTC)(link)
Out of this whole issue, this is what makes sense. Man it rocked!
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[personal profile] flint_marko 2011-12-21 20:25 (UTC)(link)
I hate how Morrison writes Talia.

[personal profile] darkknightjrk 2011-12-21 21:59 (UTC)(link)
Well, it sounds like with his finale maxi-series, Leviathan, he's going to be writing her differently:

CA: Yeah, the only mother I can think of [in your work] is Talia, and I don't think that anybody would call her any kind of role model.

GM: She's not, but also, I've been thinking about her again as well. I want to do a much more rounded portrayal of Talia shortly.

From his interview at Comics Alliance
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[personal profile] marco 2011-12-21 23:33 (UTC)(link)
I hate how he writes her too. Then again, I generally have a problem with how he writes quite a few female characters. Talia just got it especially bad.
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[personal profile] espanolbot 2011-12-22 01:56 (UTC)(link)
My problem with his version of Talia is that he kind of wrote her with sort of the same voice as Jezebel Jet, only more Bond villainish.

Admittedly it's something of an improvement over her... somewhat neutral personality in her previous appearances, though she doesn't really seem to be that nice a person either.
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[personal profile] skjam 2011-12-21 20:38 (UTC)(link)
Hmmm...with the remaining letters from "leviathan" we learn that Talia's secret partner is--Hevn, from "Get Backers"!
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[personal profile] marco 2011-12-21 23:35 (UTC)(link)
If only her bosom were busting out of a tiny top, now. Then again, they have more issues to try that with, don't they?
(I swear Hevn has no nipples...)
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[personal profile] big_daddy_d 2011-12-22 01:08 (UTC)(link)
Morrison. I like your work on Batman. I love that you introduced Damian. Love how you interpret the Joker. Hell I actually love this book...but dude for the love of god what is the deal with Talia's heel turn?!
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-12-22 01:28 (UTC)(link)
An effort to make her something other than the fairly spineless vacillating love interest who won't leave the genocidal, megalomaniac madman who is her father for... no adequately explained reason?

I'm not saying it worked, or anything like it, but previous takes on Talia barely have her being a character.
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[personal profile] big_daddy_d 2011-12-23 00:50 (UTC)(link)
Hey I'm all for character but I always thought that she wanted to get away from being..well..her father's daughter.
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-12-23 01:11 (UTC)(link)
You'd think so, but somehow she never left him, she was always either with him, or would go back to him, and not even to particularly try and stop him.
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[personal profile] thefiretonight 2011-12-22 01:31 (UTC)(link)
I definitely liked the first half of this better than the second. Probably had a little to do with Steph. ;)
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[personal profile] espanolbot 2011-12-22 01:34 (UTC)(link)
Any Cass Cain in the issue?
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[personal profile] benicio127 2011-12-22 01:44 (UTC)(link)
Nope :(

However, Rihanna, Katy Perry and Gaga made it in xD
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[personal profile] espanolbot 2011-12-22 01:54 (UTC)(link)
Ah no matter, Morrison said she'll be in Batman Inc. again at some point or another, so next year maybe.

From what I saw of Steph's appearance though she's all kinds of awesome, and not the damsel in distress people appeared to be worried she'll be. :)
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[personal profile] benicio127 2011-12-22 01:55 (UTC)(link)
Yes, she is quite fantastic and he did a great job of getting her voice. Cameron Stewart did a fantastic job on the art.

Not excited about what Morrison continues to do to Talia, but Steph was great, and Rihanna/Gaga/Katy Perry were a nice bonus!
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[personal profile] espanolbot 2011-12-22 01:58 (UTC)(link)
I must admit, her sandals are quite menacing.
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[personal profile] moetushie 2011-12-22 02:13 (UTC)(link)
Why, yes the are. The heel seems to have disappeared from one of them though.
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[personal profile] superfangirl1 2011-12-22 04:22 (UTC)(link)
I guess that one of her hidden abilities. *lol*
moetushie: Beaton cartoon - a sexy revolution. (comix  → bat coffee)

[personal profile] moetushie 2011-12-22 04:24 (UTC)(link)
It's undeniably practical - both sandals and high heels.
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[personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn 2011-12-22 06:57 (UTC)(link)
So, wait... she's put a hit out on her own son now?

What exactly happened that she's against Bruce now?

And reading above, it sounds like it's someone different, but the guy next to her reminds me of Azrael-Batman.
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-12-22 13:18 (UTC)(link)
When Talia and Damian last spoke, he basically told her that he no longer wished to be part of her life, becasue she was disappointed he'd fallen in with Dick and the Batclan, and she wouldn't love him or accept him as he was (Which Dick did without hesitation or reservation). She warned him that from now on they would be enemies, and his reply was one of Damian's finest moments as he simply says "Then I hope I will be a worthy one mother" and leaves.
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[personal profile] zapbiffpow 2011-12-22 17:12 (UTC)(link)
Holy crap, when Talia said she'd wage war at Bruce and Dick for taking Damian, she really meant it. I thought the issue was really entertaining.

Plus, unless I'm mistaken, Red Robin's new HQ is underneath a fine dining establishment. It's like the perfect setup for some sitcom shenanigans.
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[personal profile] icon_uk 2011-12-27 13:08 (UTC)(link)
I thought his base was in the derelict cinema in Crime Alley