scans_daily: Peter Parker: Rosy cheeked reactionary! Also: Hawk & Dove

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@ 2011-12-27 06:59 pm UTC

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Peter Parker: Rosy cheeked reactionary! Also: Hawk & Dove

Ever wonder what Steve Ditko would think of the Occupy Wall Street movement? Well, here's an idea!

From Steve Ditko's final issue of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN:

And here's a look at SHOWCASE #75, the first appearance of Hawk and Dove.

	No, I'm not surprised neonvincent 2011-12-28 03:45 am UTC (link)
	Especially since the Objectivist page on Comic Book Religion lists five Objectivist characters, two of whom were Ditko's (The Question and Mr. A) and a third was inspired by Ditko's characters (Rorschach). (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 13 comments) (Show 13 comments)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised rocketlindy 2011-12-28 08:34 am UTC (link)
	Checking out that site, I realize that there are very few "major" Jewish characters. Ben Grimm, Kate Kane, a couple incarnations of Doctor Fate, Magneto, the Maximoffs, Kitty Pryde. . .Bendis. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 11 comments) (Show 11 comments)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised espanolbot 2011-12-28 02:44 pm UTC (link)
	Wha? You're saying that Bendis made Kitty Pryde Jewish? If so she's kind of been since she was introduced. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 5 comments) (Show 5 comments)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised salinea 2011-12-28 02:53 pm UTC (link)
	I think they mean that "Bendis" is one of the main Jewish character of the MU. Cuz he has most of his character speak in Jewish New Yorkese slang or something. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised espanolbot 2011-12-28 04:21 pm UTC (link)
	To be fair, a lot of nonJewish folk in New York use Yiddish slang, same with people from parts of London. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised salinea 2011-12-28 04:46 pm UTC (link)
	I was trying to translate how I understood the comment; not agreeing with it. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised rocketlindy 2011-12-29 12:18 am UTC (link)
	No, I was saying that Bendis is a Jewish character. Geddit. Because he's not real? Blahhhh (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised jlroberson 2013-02-04 11:37 am UTC (link)
	At last, someone has joined me in my firm belief that Brian Michael Bendis does not exist. The same goes for Art Simek, by the way. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised salinea 2011-12-28 02:54 pm UTC (link)
	The Maximoffs ain't Jewish. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised starwolf_oakley 2011-12-28 04:34 pm UTC (link)
	Wanda and Pietro are both Roma/Gypsy. Their mother, Magda, was Roma/Gypsy, as were the Maximoffs who adoped them (thanks to the High Evolutionary). (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised salinea 2011-12-28 04:46 pm UTC (link)
	Exactly. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised rocketlindy 2011-12-29 12:19 am UTC (link)
	They're ethnically half-Jewish. Which, since it's not their mother who's Jewish, means they're not really Jewish, but that's a different kind of technicality. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised salinea 2011-12-29 12:25 am UTC (link)
	More importantly than which of their parent is Jewish, if you ask them if they identify as Jewish, I'd be very surprised either of them would say "yes". (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	Re: No, I'm not surprised deleonjh 2011-12-28 09:49 pm UTC (link)
	Layla Miller is Objectivist? Since when? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject espanolbot 2011-12-28 02:43 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, I've heard of this. I think that later in the story Peter swings by the protest later as Spider-Man and yells abuse at them, which resulted in the more left leaning Stan Lee changing the dialogue to make him more supportive. (Reply to this)